MPC2500 Discontinued

I work at guitar center and yea the 2500 is N (not carrying anymore) code, but not D (discontinued) code yet... so you can still special order them for a little while till it goes D code.

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sorry for the novel, but I assure you its an easy read thats worth the time if your in this thread to begin with.

TUSKANY wrote:cheers for replies to me.. sorry for hijacking the thread a little..

I dont mind thread jacks as long as there's no gay ass arguing and personal attacks like in the off topic section.

LivePsy wrote:Triple-X: sorry you had a bad experience with the MPC2500. Mine was rock solid out of the box and nothing sounds like it. Maybe other MPC's do, but no other current gear has that compressed lo-fi hot-level sound. I seem to remember the EPS-16 amd ASR's did though. I've recently tried taking the samples from a favourite MPC kit over to PC and its all weak, thin and ****. But if you send the PC out to the MPC in, it gets that sound. Something about the MPC outs colors it

It really is probably time that the 2500 was discontinued. For all the complaints about it a few years back comparing it to the 2000 and 60, the MPC2500 really is/was the best mix of solid drum machine with modern storage options. Because there isn't a successor with the guts of an MPC, the 2500 will just go up in value. There will be 2500's in 20 years time still bangin'

I didn't get the 2500 because it was the leading edge of technology, that's the point. Its good technology, not just the latest. Its your instrument.

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And Livepsy I agree with you about the sound. I love it. I will say that the low end falls short a little bit, but with the addition of my Aphex 104 Aural Exciter I get it ALL back and then some. Plus I use my DBX 266xl to compress before and after sampling when needed.

but anyway...
for me the 2500 fits into a niche. one would think that the 5000 would be the bad ass be all end all of mpcs especially if that someone was a person that knew little about the product line, but as we know this is not the case.

When JJ decides to make an OS for the 5k then and only THEN would I ever consider it.
Even still look at when the 5000 came out and how much it is now. 2500 bucks a year ago this time.
Same thing happen with the 4000. came out, dropped in price quickly and didnt stay long.

THE PART ABOUT ALL THIS THAT GETS ME SCRATCHING MY HEAD THO...

how can they not see the writing on the wall??

They know that they have been cutting corners on cheap parts to save money/increase profit margins right?
Okay so in turn they release products, (namely the 4000, 2500 and 5000 for example) at a high price, and then shortly after release (6-18 months) the prices drop fairly dramatically followed by the devices being discontinued.
Having tried this method and seeing its results, why continue it?

Why not spend what needs to be spent to design and build devices that are bug free and build with quality components, sell them for a bit more to offset production costs, and exercise some god damn staying power, with professional devices that are built to work and last, as well as through GOOD product support(if and when needed).

Why is that SO Fukin difficult to accomplish for a company of this size with the longevity it has had thus far?
Rather than get wiped off the map completely by marketing mainly garbage made Midi controllers and putting themselves in a position where they actually have competition now? I mean there are SEVERAL companies making midi controllers, let alone those similar to the MPK line, but aside from the Roland MV who competes with the mpc in today's market? Beat thang?? .. Ninja please.

Here is a good example for ya. and only one of many im sure..
anyway.. my friend and I went on a venture to build a professional grade in-home recording facility after he graduated from Full Sail in 1999. So we are talking TEN years ago here. We dealt with a professional Pro Audio dealer In atl called Magic Audio (now called Atlanta Pro Audio). Its the type of place where they have to buzz you in before you can enter and you call and make an appointment for a consultation to by gear. Anyway, getting to the point..
We knew alot about gear and what we wanted, but got a recommendation from the Manager on a Tube Mic Preamp.
He asked if we had ever heard of AVALON, to which we replied.. no..
He told us they were a new company offering very high quality Tube Dynamic gear, so On his word alone we purchased an Avalon 737-SP. it cost us 1899 then. Fast forward Ten years.. that piece of gear is a studio standard now and costs 400-500 MORE than it did when it came out. It APPRECIATED in value! and they are STILL MAKING THEM!
My friend still has it too and uses it almost every day. It still works perfectly, has NEVER had ANY problems and STILL has the original tubes that came in it going strong! Now while im sure there are other examples that are EVEN BETTER than this one.. it gets my point across.

WHAT THE FUK IS AKAI SMOKING????

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Akai-MPC-2500-MPC ... 286.c0.m14

I think i might throw the winning bid on this 1, asked the dude if everythings perfect which he'l say yeah to no doubt, could ask if hes run a testOS on it ever? dunno probably gona go for it, good idea? peas..

Yo Triple, about that floor model, I am sure you can return it if it's not working once you get what parts you need out of it. Maybe they won't let you return just because you want to, but it the shit don't work, I think they have to take it back. Aslong as it's not marked sold as is.

DJ Hellfire wrote:Yo Triple, about that floor model, I am sure you can return it if it's not working once you get what parts you need out of it. Maybe they won't let you return just because you want to, but it the **** don't work, I think they have to take it back. Aslong as it's not marked sold as is.

"SOLD AS IS" is EXACTLY wut da mufka said.

"As is" and "as a clearance item". "You cant return it to any guitar center, but you DO have the remainder of the Akai warranty.

And I specifically said.. so if I buy it with the intention to fix it and find out that its gonna cost too much, or for whatever reason I cant do it.. your telling me I CAN NOT return it in the SAME condition its in now.
and he said "THATS CORRECT" (meanwhile the thing looks so worked that if Akai saw it would they deny warranty work on it and claim the damage is from it being mistreated) LOL

So I said.. well yeah, that's a deal breaker for me man. he replied... "sorry".... so I walked up outta there.


and to top it all off they wanted $960 for it and the thing was beat to SH!T.
I mean Keep in mind I had no intentions of keepin it, but still .. dayum..
No BS it looked like it just came off of a Ten year tour. screen lit but NO text at all.. as if the contrast needed to be turned up, but U cant. broken volume pot, missing qlink fader and qlink knob.. grungy pads, scratched all up. BEAT DA FUK UP!

looks like GC and Akai are smoking the same pipe

Triple-X wrote:
Well a few days later after random use I notice a crackling from the right jacks and a popping noise from the left.. The rest is history and is logged here on the forum. (search CRACKLING if ur interesting in knowing more)
After calling Akai and doing some digging with others, I found that this was a KNOWN FUKIN PROBLEM!

I did a search for CRACKLING and all I found was the 'MPC2500 CRACKLING OUTPUT ISSUE.. EVER SOLVED?' thread. It's nothing but speculation as to what the problem is. What's the punchline? Did you get it repaired? If so, what was the problem?

T7 wrote:

Triple-X wrote:
Well a few days later after random use I notice a crackling from the right jacks and a popping noise from the left.. The rest is history and is logged here on the forum. (search CRACKLING if ur interesting in knowing more)
After calling Akai and doing some digging with others, I found that this was a KNOWN FUKIN PROBLEM!

I did a search for CRACKLING and all I found was the 'MPC2500 CRACKLING OUTPUT ISSUE.. EVER SOLVED?' thread. It's nothing but speculation as to what the problem is. What's the punchline? Did you get it repaired? If so, what was the problem?

You didnt read the whole thread. Understandably, its a long thread.
But yes the issue is one of two things. 1) Bad CPU board. (The Board that handles the Main L&R outs, and possibly the processor itself) or 2) a AD/DA conversion issue.

When I spoke with akai originally, I was told they were aware of the issue, and I have read something about a bad run of CPU's or CPU boards in the 2500 elsewhere on this forum if I remember correctly.

Thats the thing. Akai wont say anything definitive, or incriminating for that matter, and want it sent in for warranty repair. Which I was trying to AVOID, thus I was looking for another 2500 for CPU board swap.


so anyway.. A few posts back I was asking why Akai cant seem to see the writing on the wall, and actually step their game up on the mpc line, and come correct like they should, if for nothing else, to save their lineage (considering how they brag themselves up here http://www.akaipro.com/findyourmpc)

Well apparently the reason is because they are too involved making toys and developing sh!t like this
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/19733/Scr ... -Revealed/

Triple-X wrote:You didnt read the whole thread. Understandably, its a long thread.
But yes the issue is one of two things. 1) Bad CPU board. (The Board that handles the Main L&R outs, and possibly the processor itself) or 2) a AD/DA conversion issue.

I did read the whole thread. You never mention actually going through with sending your MPC to wackai, so you really don't know what the problem is with your MPC, is my point.

There will be 2500's in 20 years time still bangin'

I doubt it

Well apparently the reason is because they are too involved making toys and developing sh!t like this
http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/19733/Scr ... -Revealed/

wow

T7 wrote:

Triple-X wrote:You didnt read the whole thread. Understandably, its a long thread.
But yes the issue is one of two things. 1) Bad CPU board. (The Board that handles the Main L&R outs, and possibly the processor itself) or 2) a AD/DA conversion issue.

I did read the whole thread. You never mention actually going through with sending your MPC to wackai, so you really don't know what the problem is with your MPC, is my point.

Not definitively no. But if you read the entire thing then you know that all the variables have been eliminated.
It doesnt occur via the 1-8 outs, it does occur over the headphone jack. The headphone jack connects to the Main CPU board. as does the 8 out board. The crackling occurs regardless what media the sound comes from, of whether the 128MH ram is in the unit or not.

Based on all that and the components in the device it really only leaves the CPU board or the converters, which I believe are ON the CPU board as well. Hence why I wanted to trying popping a DIFFERENT CPU board in there myself, prior to having to send it to akai.
Plus Im sure you must have read in THIS thread that I dont want to have to send it to them.

So what are you asking me?

What Im gonna do?
Not sure yet. Either bite the bullet and spend the money to 2nd day or overnight it them, and but a 1000 to use for a few weeks while its gone, or continue to try and find a 2500 I can swap cpu boards with.

Triple-X wrote:What Im gonna do?
Not sure yet. Either bite the bullet and spend the money to 2nd day or overnight it them, and but a 1000 to use for a few weeks while its gone, or continue to try and find a 2500 I can swap cpu boards with.

Problem solved: http://www.mpcstuff.com/1al4039a501a.html

what things should i look out for when trying to buy a used 2500?

Problem solved: http://www.mpcstuff.com/1al4039a501a.html

why would he spend $375 when he's not sure that that is the source of the problem? Sounds like he's trying to get another 2500, swap the cpu boards on the two, and return it for a refund. Either that, or, spend $50-100 on express shipping to AKAI to be repaired.

v00d00ppl wrote:what things should i look out for when trying to buy a used 2500?

I'd look for signs of extensive use. srcatches, worn looking pads, broken buttons, etc. would lead me to believe it has been used/abused for awhile and may not last quite as long. I would definitly stay away from a floor model too...