sp303 + 60 = this

you going places andreas, do what elma said. put out a remix tape yo. sh*** banging fi real.

thanks!!I appreciate the comments!

I really don't think I'm going to far into this, the vocals are off, I still like it, but he should probably change it before recording it again.

Criticism is good, but you were the one saying cats was playing favorites weren't you? That nobody said nothing negative except you (which wasn't true, everybody said about one of his mixes having the drums to quiet)

I think at this point it doesn't matter, you cool bassline, but I really could give two s hits about what anybody expects from me.

So criticism and praise, but don't knock others for doing either, or claim their comments aren't genuine if you don't want the same done to you and end up in this kinda mess again.

I call it as I see it and, like you, I could give two shits about what people think. If I see a problem I will point it out. Like I said before, I'm not here to make online friends or fans. I'm here to give and get information, that's it.

If people are going to jock ride, that's their perogative, I can't change that. It goes on in real life and you gotta deal with it. But I'm not about to change my views in order to avoid ending up in "messes" as you call them. That's not the type of person I am.

Conflict is good. Without it, real change can never take place. So bring on the e-enemies, I can handle them.

But I still find it funny that the one person that the constructive criticism was aimed at hasn't weighed in on this whole thing. Wanna know why? He probably took it into account and is using it to improve his game. That's the right thing to do. A true artist takes criticism to heart and uses it to improve upon their craft. Not to get all emotional like a sissy and to start attacks on truth speakers.

Like I said before, this thread is closed.

Again, you could have given your criticism and moved on, but it became about jock riders and closet haters, which is bulls hit anyway. but that's the argument and it is pointless, so in calling everyone that likes the beat a jock rider, you are doing exactly what they are, and thus perpetuating it, even if you say the thread is closed.

Is it possible for people to like the track as is? Even hearing it being off count? I personally like it that way, but I know that it would stop people from digging it so if it was to be released he'd want to fix that. Thanks to you he knows that. job well done, but liking it or not saying about it doesn't make me a dick rider, does it?

You twisted my words again. I didn't call those who liked it jock riders. You forget that I LIKED THE TRACK AS WELL just the vocals bothered me. You seem to disregard that fact.

The name calling began when I was called a "closet hater" I didn't start that. However that led me to believe that there were jock riders in the midst; which is why I threw the jock rider thing out there.

If you like it, fine. I liked the beat however the remix job was sloppy imho. His work has been tight in the past and I feel he slipped that time. I pointed it out and the whirldwind started. I am heavy into quality control so I voiced my opinion and was crucified because of it.

Yeah, that's why I said about the hater sh it, I knew that came first, but once you clear your position, (and it's clear now ) all the dick rider sh it needs to go through the same process, draggin on and on..

Cool, well I hope that makes everything clear because I'm beyond tired of this topic. It should have been near the bottom of the topic list by now.

From now on I'll "speak my piece and slide like grease" as it was once said. I now see that challenging others to think critically is a little too advanced a topic for these boards. People take things way too personally and start wars over nothing

I think we should get back to WAY more important subjects now.

i love the avatar and sig.

YO ANDREAS DONT STRESS THESE HATERS YA ISH IS FIRE!!!I AINT KNOW A 60 DRUMS PUNCHED LIKE THAT KEEP DOIN YA THING HOMIE!!!!U LUCKY I CANT DOWNLOAD THAT IDA PUT IT ON MY IPOD LMAO!!!!

good lookin out, thanks