Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By Tru4LifeRecords Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:56 am
As far as selling beats, it's about how you come across.. Imagine you met Jay-Z..What would sound better to him.."Yo Jay-Z, listen to my demo with me and my boys; I made all the beats"..or "Yo Jay-z, I got this song I just made for you, I think it's hot I got my CD player right here, want to listen to about 15 sec of it?..." I also think every producer needs a manager....

By cashstill Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:53 am
create you a tight website on the web & on soundclick

upload either short snippets of tracks are beatz with vocal tags
to prevent theft (if you nervous about letting people hear your music on the web)

check some soundclick sites out for sample license agreements
(if you just scan some of the groups on the charts you will find
them)

me i shop my beatz online by allowing them to be downloadable without voice tag.

it's like getting em hook on crack, then i will eventually start pulling beatz out the stash that i feel are even hotter with vocal tags and then make them 4 sale.

just my strategy

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By mksphnx2001 Mon Aug 09, 2004 4:41 pm
Good looking out on all the posts. I did not expect to obtain the wealth of information that has come about from this thread. When I posted it I thought at best I might get a few replys. Just wanted to say thanks for all the input from those who have learned from trial and error in this game thus far. I wish you all much success!
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By Archetype_J Mon Aug 09, 2004 9:03 pm
This thread is knowledge. Period. Props to all of you.

When shopping my beats, i just treat it like any other marketing endeavour. I only approach people that are worth my time, and visa versa. I have a product. I am going to do everything in my power to create the illusion that my product is a necessity. I've found that the best response i've gotten, just like any other job in the world, is professionalism. Rather than starting a soundclick site and handing out a gang of cd-r's, i had some Vinyl pressed up (if you want love from your local radio DJ's... vinyl is a MUST) had some stickers made, some t-shirts and a little information brochure. Lemme just tell you, i spent years hustling beats on the low-budget tip, and it's true what they say... you gotta spend money to make money. I've recieved a response 400% better doing this then i ever did trying to promote online and w/bootleg lookin' tapes and cd-rs. Format and approach is necessary. HipHop is love, but if you want to pay the bills, you absolutely have to treat it as work. Approach every move with the mindset that "i have to pay the bills"... even if thats not the case, telling yourself this will boost your work ethic.

With that being said, everything i just rattled off seems trivial compared to other gems dropped in this post. Props to trupro, DDot and the rest.

By Toecutter Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:39 am
Word Up Trupro. Amen brother. I drink to that!

By cashstill Tue Aug 10, 2004 8:42 am
Archetype_J wrote:This thread is knowledge. Period. Props to all of you.

When shopping my beats, i just treat it like any other marketing endeavour. I only approach people that are worth my time, and visa versa. I have a product. I am going to do everything in my power to create the illusion that my product is a necessity. I've found that the best response i've gotten, just like any other job in the world, is professionalism. Rather than starting a soundclick site and handing out a gang of cd-r's, i had some Vinyl pressed up (if you want love from your local radio DJ's... vinyl is a MUST) had some stickers made, some t-shirts and a little information brochure. Lemme just tell you, i spent years hustling beats on the low-budget tip, and it's true what they say... you gotta spend money to make money. I've recieved a response 400% better doing this then i ever did trying to promote online and w/bootleg lookin' tapes and cd-rs. Format and approach is necessary. HipHop is love, but if you want to pay the bills, you absolutely have to treat it as work. Approach every move with the mindset that "i have to pay the bills"... even if thats not the case, telling yourself this will boost your work ethic.

With that being said, everything i just rattled off seems trivial compared to other gems dropped in this post. Props to trupro, DDot and the rest.


I feel you definetly have to spend money in order to really make money
I read not too long ago that Stat Quo (Shady Aftermath) ATL recording artist printed up 10,000 cdrs and just pass them shitz out without even trying to sell em. Low n behold one of em made they way to someone in the Aftermath clique and the rest history.

The morale of the story iz you gotz to have be marketable on all fronts, lotz of talent, and a hint of luck.

In my case, I passed out thousands of cdrs also, but i have made more networking connections online then on the streetz.

(Although, my record label has gained a lot of street credibility for showing love with the cd giveaways)

However, I got a commercial deal to do for a online video game from my SoundClick page! Which is going to give us even more exposure nationally.

All the moves we mentioning are good one's. I think a cross approach from all the above may be a better method. Just don't put all your eggs in one basket. Ya feel me.

By weezlemeez Wed Aug 11, 2004 5:45 am
i kind of agree with my man who does the internet thing. major studios are losing crazy doe over the fact that u can make extremely professional sounding records at home with little effort needed for mastering. so i suggest doing your own 'artist development' or have someone else do it for free or fee (p.r or agent) and create a buzz about yourself as an artist. a website is absolutely ness in these times, so that plays a role. if you create a big enough buzz you can sell a lot of albums over the internet, on your webite, ebay or on the street, wherever. you might not sell a million albums, but u sure as hell get a hell of a lot more $ for each album sold. u can sell an album for $10 bucks and put $5 in your pocket! it's a better distribution of wealth in the game anyway. all i'm sayin, is that this IS the direction of the business these days. and it'll come down to 3 things: is your material tight (gotta have the tunes to back it up), are you getting exposure and how well u handle yourself in the business....

just some thoughts...

and trupro, that was knowledge.
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By DSTRUCT Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:04 pm
[quote="cashstill"]

However, I got a commercial deal to do for a online video game from my SoundClick page! Which is going to give us even more exposure nationally.

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i got an offer too from some online video game company but they offered to pay me next to nothing. I doubt it, but i wonder if we got the same offer?
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By trupro Thu Aug 12, 2004 8:01 pm
That's an interesting point about Stat Quo. that's my millz. He used to be in my group; I produced his first demos, and I can tell you, when he knows what he wants, he has the will to get it. He saw the game, and knew that, putting alot of product out there before your signed or whatever, is a great idea for up and comers. That being said, keep in mind that he's a rapper, not a producer. Should a producer go out and press 10,000 cds as giveaways? In my opinion, no. But I feel what you are saying about the work ethic. It's like, people will only respect your work at the level you respect it yourself. However, now that I think of it maybe having 10,000 bootleg remix albums on the street IS a good idea for a producer. That seems to be the move. Now you got cats who would of never known about 9th Wonder and DangerMouse pumping they ish.

By noble5 Sat Aug 14, 2004 9:29 pm
I have to give everyone credit on this topic. I've been wondering for a while how should I shop my beats. I mean you meet cats and connect with them and if you're in the same situation I am. People who love real hip hop is rare these days. So selling your beats to someone on the same level is hard but this a job and we all gots to paid. Thanks for the info. :lol:

By cheiro Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:50 pm
This thread is off the hook. Good lookin out Archetype_J. Didn´t know about tha vinyl pressing. Good lookin out.

I might wanna do tha cd distributing thang too. Just stop being 2 selfish and shell out a few bucks to burn them cds. Shit pays off at the end of the day!

What is your (anyone) take on finding good a manager 2 rep a producer? What qualities should I pay attention 2.
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By DSTRUCT Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:35 pm
yo Prah, can you make this a sticky?
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By Cheech Mon Aug 16, 2004 10:52 am
Tru4LifeRecords wrote:As far as selling beats, it's about how you come across.. Imagine you met Jay-Z..What would sound better to him.."Yo Jay-Z, listen to my demo with me and my boys; I made all the beats"..or "Yo Jay-z, I got this song I just made for you, I think it's hot I got my CD player right here, want to listen to about 15 sec of it?..." I also think every producer needs a manager....


I've been thinking about this for days but I'm still not sure which one of those two examples sounds better... :D
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By trupro Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:05 pm
Go get a lawyer who you know for a fact has brokered some deals for prodecers/beatmakers. You can make twice the contacts that way,
and you more likely to get official ish going down...
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By djadonis206 Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:12 pm
It's different in the Hip-Hop biz than any other biz fa sho

Techno Music - It's best to get your music in the hands of a big dj whose out there touring - they'll play your track or tracks on CD-R - if it blows up, garunteed you'll get some love

I would think as far as Hip-Hop there's Hip-Hop dj's right - if the dj's playing it, people are talking about it and if people are talking about it someones listening - they'll find you...know what I mean