WHERE DOES THE JJOS PASSWORD STORE? (PLEASE HELP)

Im curious to know where the password gets saved once entered. Internal Flash?

Im asking because I have an mpc2500 that appears to have some corruption maybe within the Internal Flash memory.
the internal memory shows from the load screen that it has the default Akai Programs, but the actual sounds that belong to the programs are not listed, instead it shows other programs that say "UNUSED" (16 to be exact) along with the OEM pgms like I mentioned.

The stranger thing, is that when you boot the mpc up, the sounds actually DO LOAD, yet the programs DONT.
you would think it would be the other way around. fukin strange no?

And yes, I have Saved the Default Programs and Samples to the INTERNAL FLASH a few times in an attempt to overwrite the internal flash memory, yet every time I get the same results.

So naturally my concern is that If I purchase a JJOSXL password and enter it, if it stores in Flash, will it actually STORE.
Cause if it did not, I guess I would have to enter the password EVERY time i were to boot up?

anyway, can ANYONE shed a little light on this? at all?

I previously went from having an mpc that had a bad cpu board with a crackling right output and having to wait to purchase JJ, to now having an mpc2500 with a possibly corrupt Internal Flash.
I wish there was some way to completely Flash the Flash memory and have it empty, and THEN attempt to write the default Akai Sounds and programs to check that they store correctly. (if not just leave it empty)

In actuality, OSXL doesn't even use that feature(via autoload), But again my concern is whether the JJOSXL password I purchase will in fact store correctly.

THANKS

Triple-X wrote:Im curious to know where the password gets saved once entered. Internal Flash?

Im asking because I have an mpc2500 that appears to have some corruption maybe within the Internal Flash memory.
the internal memory shows from the load screen that it has the default Akai Programs, but the actual sounds that belong to the programs are not listed, instead it shows other programs that say "UNUSED" (16 to be exact) along with the OEM pgms like I mentioned.

The stranger thing, is that when you boot the mpc up, the sounds actually DO LOAD, yet the programs DONT.
you would think it would be the other way around. fukin strange no?

And yes, I have Saved the Default Programs and Samples to the INTERNAL FLASH a few times in an attempt to overwrite the internal flash memory, yet every time I get the same results.

So naturally my concern is that If I purchase a JJOSXL password and enter it, if it stores in Flash, will it actually STORE.
Cause if it did not, I guess I would have to enter the password EVERY time i were to boot up?

anyway, can ANYONE shed a little light on this? at all?

I previously went from having an mpc that had a bad cpu board with a crackling right output and having to wait to purchase JJ, to now having an mpc2500 with a possibly corrupt Internal Flash.
I wish there was some way to completely Flash the Flash memory and have it empty, and THEN attempt to write the default Akai Sounds and programs to check that they store correctly. (if not just leave it empty)

In actuality, OSXL doesn't even use that feature(via autoload), But again my concern is whether the JJOSXL password I purchase will in fact store correctly.

THANKS

The pass word will store correctly on the flash memory even if you erase the flash (i have no idea how) but that has been the rule for JJ. When you load up the OS have you changed the [auto load] folder at all? Or are you loading the sounds and it is not in order for seq.? I ask because you have to load the program file after you load the folder.

Let me know.

nah.. for instance... out of the box the mpc loads "all programs and sounds" and "all songs and sequences"

Well the "all songs and sequences: loads fine.

But the "All programs and sounds"".. well the sounds load.. but NOT the actual programs.

But like I said.. the strange thing about it is that if you go to the Load screen.. and view the contents of the INTERNAL MEMORY it SHOWS the programs.. but NOT the sounds.. yet the opposite load.

Then I can manually load the pgorams from the actual Internal Flash memory and they do correctly address the sounds that loaded. But for them to not even show that they are saved in the internal flash memory? yet they DO load?
and then the programs DONT load, but they are visible in the Internal memory from the Load screen? Very strange.

Not to mention the 16 UNUSED programs In the Internal Flash mem. NO OTHER 2500 I have ever seen as done that out of 3-4 others.

And yes.. I tried RESAVING the "ALL PROGRAMS AND SOUNDS" file over the Internal Flash memory SEVERAL TIMES.
It appears as tho it saves correctly, yet when you view the internal flash from the load screen.. same thing.
Also I have done a factory reset, and tried JJOS free 3.09, OS1 AND OSXL. no give on any of them.

Corrupt Internal Flash is what Im chalking it up to.

also forgot to mention based on your question.. Yes I checked Autoload several times, and after each time installing a different OS version to test. Also tested the autoload off of my own CF card with the same exact OEM akai program and sound data, and it works no problem.

The issue is obviously a partially corrupt Internal Flash memory.
It blows my mind that the sounds will autoload correctly but not the programs, when its the programs that ARE visible from the Load screen via the internal memory and NOT the sounds. its ass backwards.. lol

Either way.. i cant stress enough that I DO NOT CARE about the internal memory(or it potentially being corrupt)
OTHER than the possibility that it may interfere with my saving a JJOSXL password.
and I aint trying to purchase JJ more than once for one mpc, nor have to re-enter it repeatedly.
ya know?

I attempted sending a question to JJ via the Bug report form. But who knows if and when I will hear back.
Ughhhh.. sh!t is driving me crazy

Triple-X wrote:also forgot to mention based on your question.. Yes I checked Autoload several times, and after each time installing a different OS version to test. Also tested the autoload off of my own CF card with the same exact OEM akai program and sound data, and it works no problem.

The issue is obviously a partially corrupt Internal Flash memory.
It blows my mind that the sounds will autoload correctly but not the programs, when its the programs that ARE visible from the Load screen via the internal memory and NOT the sounds. its ass backwards.. lol

Either way.. i cant stress enough that I DO NOT CARE about the internal memory(or it potentially being corrupt)
OTHER than the possibility that it may interfere with my saving a JJOSXL password.
and I aint trying to purchase JJ more than once for one mpc, nor have to re-enter it repeatedly.
ya know?

I attempted sending a question to JJ via the Bug report form. But who knows if and when I will hear back.
Ughhhh.. sh!t is driving me crazy

Dang. Wish there was a way to test the flash.

I know... me too..

I actually sent a question to JJ..

"Is it possible to Install JJOSXL In a MPC2500 which has a partially corrupt INTERNAL FLASH MEMORY?"

Reply was

"Unless the flash memory has broken, there is no problem."

SO I would take that as a yes... the password will store..

I wouldn't say that the internal flash memory is BROKEN.. but I WOULD say it is partially corrupted.
but I guess what he is saying is that unless it doesn;t work AT ALL.. then its no worries.

It still feels risky tho, and the communication gap worries me as well.
If he actually understood partially corrupt i mean..
I mean thats kinda broken no? LOL

I believe you can mount the INTERNAL flash memory through USB to change the contents.