AKAI MPK 25

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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By Doglamp Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:02 pm
Idk, I've had an MPD32 before. It was plastic but felt nice and sturdy, not flimsy at all. I don't see why the MPK's would be different in quality. The keys can't be that bad. I refuse to believe that.

And I refuse to buy a keyboard that is blueish-grey all over. :lol: I prefer neutral colors. :oops:
Oh, and what is up with the knobs on the Axiom looking squishy?

My future keyboard will be an AKAI MPK or Novation SL MKII.
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By taxman806 Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:40 am
Lampdog wrote:
digitalanalog wrote:I must say you are a complete idiot. "the axiom keys murder the mpk"?!?!?!?!?! are you kidding me.

He's entitled to his opinion just like you yours, calm down. ???


Joidibeats wrote:12 small pads < 8 full pads


I have played around with the MPK series and they are, in fact, very CHEAP feeling. My Axiom is definitely better built. And yes, 8 full pads are better than 12 halfassed pads.
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By Doglamp Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:09 am
crossings wrote:
Doglamp wrote:The keys can't be that bad. I refuse to believe that.



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pic taken from this thread here: viewtopic.php?f=11&t=119928

please read if considering buying an mpk...

I posted in that thread.
Doglamp wrote:The keys can't be that bad. I refuse to believe that.
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By crossings Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:17 am
well then... just how bad do the keys need to get? :lol:
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By Doglamp Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:22 am
It's just one pic. :wink:

I'll go to the store, check it out, if it's not good, I'll get the Novation.
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By mr_debauch Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:43 am
digitalanalog wrote:
W. Steele wrote:My advice to those who already have a MPC is stick w/ the Axiom 25 . The keys murder the MPK series . And I'd rather have 8 nice sized pads then 12 chiclets .


I must say you are a complete idiot. "the axiom keys murder the mpk"?!?!?!?!?! are you kidding me.




first of all, novation automap is so-so... most of the time it doesn't automatically do anything and you wind up having to point midi notes in your DAW to midi notes you manually set up to keys in automap midi server on a midi channel like usual anyways... basically most midi controllers have automap built in where as it is an app for novation that runs from your computer for almost all novation controllers. basically the controllers that use automap can only be used on the computer unlike controllers that have midi outputs and can be used with hardware aswell.

and you think W is an idiot and you are so smart... then go with the ever so great akai MPK series and tell us about the amazing keys:

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for more details:
http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=119928&start=0



edit: I forgot to refresh this page from earlier today and i made this response and only pushed enter now after all the above responses...


also a guy who works at a music shop mentioned in the thread that the mpk series has been getting a lot of returns for busted keys

Re: AKAI MPK 25

By digitalanalog Mon Oct 05, 2009 10:03 am
so I guess I am going with the novation after all,

and btw I own a axiom 49 rite now and all I can say is that it sucks balls. to say it is semiweighted would be a lie. it is more close to no weighted. my cousins toy piano has better feeling keys than this thing. so thanks to everyone who knows how to repeat what they read on m-audio.com, or any other music hardware distributor site.

I read somewhere that novation has an actual keyboard feel (once again the axiom is as far away from this as possible, combined with the POS velocity curves it makes for a truly useless piece of equipment), do any KEYBOARDIST's(not wannabe producers) have any experiece with novation controllers?

and all you wannabe producers who have the axiom and think its great, later you will realize how bad and useless it is. people who usually buy it are "JUST GOT INTO PRODUCING AND BOUGHT THE AXIOM MIDI CONTROLLER AND I MUST SAY IT IS THE BEST INVESTMENT I'VE EVER MADE, ALL THE KNOBS IT HAS AND SLIDERS AND PADS COULD BE USEFUL IF I KNEW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM, AND ONCE I FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT I REALIZE IT'S ALL USELESS COMPARED TO THE EQUIPMENT I WILL ACTUALLY NEED WHICH COSTS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS", then in about a year sell it for something else.

and just because there is one picture of a mpk with a broken key does not mean that all mpk will have the same problem. my axiom keys started to die out on me, so does that mean all axioms will do that? no!!! o wait, it actually does, because all of them are going to start losing connection, because m-audio can suck my little chinese balls.

so no beat makers, hip hop producers, who have no actual piano and keyboard experience please.
NOVATION REMOTE 25 SL.
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By djchucknorris Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:29 am
digitalanalog wrote:
W. Steele wrote:My advice to those who already have a MPC is stick w/ the Axiom 25 . The keys murder the MPK series . And I'd rather have 8 nice sized pads then 12 chiclets .


I must say you are a complete idiot. "the axiom keys murder the mpk"?!?!?!?!?! are you kidding me.

I own a axiom 49, and this thing is such a POS, they keys are soft, to even call it semi weighted is ridiculous. and pads are useless for triggering anything, a piano key does the same thing. even a typing keyboard has the same functionality.

I briefly touched the keys of a mpk25 and man were those things stiff as hell (once again you are an idiot w. steele for even saying that the axiom keys are good at all, an idiot). perfect, but does anyone know how it plays.

I am stuck in between the novation remote 25 sl and the mpk25. all I am really looking for is the action of they keys (nobody tell me the axiom is good because it isn't) and how well it midi's up with vsts.

automap looks very attractive but are the mpk25 presets any good with vsts?

I was sold on the novation until I read the keys on the mpk are unbeatable, but I need a second opinion so see if longer setup is worth it for the keys.

I am using cubase sx and komplete 5

that mpc swing looks cool for instant feel. and the note repeat could be useful, but all I really care is about how close it is to imitating a real piano. so any keyboardist who have tried this thing please let me know.


That's a pretty hefty first line for someone who later in the post says that HE READ that the MPK keys are great...
Word to the wise, know your sources, was this claim on the MPK keys from a magazine that has ad's from Akai in it??
Does the person who says MPK keys are great actually play keyboards??

Novation keys slay all other dedicated controllers except for CME. MPK keys are not even in the same league as Novations' keybeds. The quality of the keys on the MPK are just as bad as an Axiom straight up. They may feel better than the axiom but MPK's have almost a 50% failure rate. Always the same problem...broken keys just like the pic a few posts back. That's a much higher failure rate than the Axiom series. I'm not saying that Axiom's are good...both are sh*t.
Now before you start tripping and asking where I heard about the high failure rate, It's my job to process retail music warranty claims so this high failure rate is first hand. I have had only 1 Novation product warranty claim in over 3 years. Treat yourself....buy a Novation instead.
peace...
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By W. Steele Tue Oct 06, 2009 5:13 pm
digitalanalog wrote:once again you are an idiot w. steele for even saying that the axiom keys are good at all, an idiot


:lol: . You're comedy .
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By mr_debauch Tue Oct 06, 2009 6:31 pm
digitalanalog wrote:so I guess I am going with the novation after all,

and btw I own a axiom 49 rite now and all I can say is that it sucks balls. to say it is semiweighted would be a lie. it is more close to no weighted. my cousins toy piano has better feeling keys than this thing. so thanks to everyone who knows how to repeat what they read on m-audio.com, or any other music hardware distributor site.

I read somewhere that novation has an actual keyboard feel (once again the axiom is as far away from this as possible, combined with the POS velocity curves it makes for a truly useless piece of equipment), do any KEYBOARDIST's(not wannabe producers) have any experiece with novation controllers?

and all you wannabe producers who have the axiom and think its great, later you will realize how bad and useless it is. people who usually buy it are "JUST GOT INTO PRODUCING AND BOUGHT THE AXIOM MIDI CONTROLLER AND I MUST SAY IT IS THE BEST INVESTMENT I'VE EVER MADE, ALL THE KNOBS IT HAS AND SLIDERS AND PADS COULD BE USEFUL IF I KNEW WHAT TO DO WITH THEM, AND ONCE I FIGURE OUT HOW TO USE IT I REALIZE IT'S ALL USELESS COMPARED TO THE EQUIPMENT I WILL ACTUALLY NEED WHICH COSTS TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS", then in about a year sell it for something else.

and just because there is one picture of a mpk with a broken key does not mean that all mpk will have the same problem. my axiom keys started to die out on me, so does that mean all axioms will do that? no!!! o wait, it actually does, because all of them are going to start losing connection, because m-audio can suck my little chinese balls.

so no beat makers, hip hop producers, who have no actual piano and keyboard experience please.
NOVATION REMOTE 25 SL.



instead of being an idiot, go down to your music store and try them out. you are the dummy that went to the music store and bought a keyboard with keys you dont even like. If you are such a pro producer and expert pianist then why are you even asking for advice then? You gotta be dumb to buy a semi weighted keyboard and expect full weighted keys.
and if you didn't try your axiom before buying it... then you are dumb for that too.

get lost you fool...



that is comming from the owner of akai, m-audio, and novation midi controllers.
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By Doglamp Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:21 pm
I think I'm going with the MPK, since the Novation SL has a joystick instead of two separate controls for pitch-shifting and modulation.
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Re: AKAI MPK 25

By crossings Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:40 am
Doglamp wrote:I think I'm going with the MPK, since the Novation SL has a joystick instead of two separate controls for pitch-shifting and modulation.


joysticks are nice though... and it can really come in handy with certain vsti plugins like the korg wavestation or whatever...

Re: AKAI MPK 25

By firework Wed Oct 07, 2009 5:16 am
digitalanalog wrote:
W. Steele wrote:My advice to those who already have a MPC is stick w/ the Axiom 25 . The keys murder the MPK series . And I'd rather have 8 nice sized pads then 12 chiclets .


I must say you are a complete idiot. "the axiom keys murder the mpk"?!?!?!?!?! are you kidding me.

I own a axiom 49, and this thing is such a POS, they keys are soft, to even call it semi weighted is ridiculous. and pads are useless for triggering anything, a piano key does the same thing. even a typing keyboard has the same functionality.

I briefly touched the keys of a mpk25 and man were those things stiff as hell (once again you are an idiot w. steele for even saying that the axiom keys are good at all, an idiot). perfect, but does anyone know how it plays.

I am stuck in between the novation remote 25 sl and the mpk25. all I am really looking for is the action of they keys (nobody tell me the axiom is good because it isn't) and how well it midi's up with vsts.

automap looks very attractive but are the mpk25 presets any good with vsts?

NOVATION murders mpk, YOU dont be a idiot and make the right choice. get a novation and stop supporting Numark shit homie. god ya ****** just dont learn. funny pads, keys that break etc. be smart man.

I was sold on the novation until I read the keys on the mpk are unbeatable, but I need a second opinion so see if longer setup is worth it for the keys.

I am using cubase sx and komplete 5



that mpc swing looks cool for instant feel. and the note repeat could be useful, but all I really care is about how close it is to imitating a real piano. so any keyboardist who have tried this thing please let me know.
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