Small Problem

I got the MPC 1000
JJOS 1.22

I got the basics of chopping pretty much down.
I got drums and a sample chopped how i want them.

When I play them without recording i can play them with a perfect loop but when i hit rec and the metronome comes on and i try to play them the exact same way, when the loop starts from 1 again everything is thrown off beat. I've been thru the manual but i can't seem to find out why it's doing this shyt. I know its prolly something small too.

Thanks

the default tempo is 120 BPM. The sample you are using is not. You need to either adjust the BPMs of the MPC or pitch the sample to line up.

Wow. Aiight man lemme try that lol

also you've checked you've got your TC / Quantize set to the right timing? (or totally turned it off)?

Did what yall said. Had a decent ruff draft beat made. Saved ALL songs and seqs tryna be on the safe side. I go back to load it and it's in the grid the way I tapped the pads but the Dam sample not even chopped up anymore.

do you have a duplicate program in the folder that you're not saving over? I mean, you make changes to your program, save the sequence, but you're not overwriting the program?

create a new folder for every project you work on & SAVE ENTIRE MEMORY into the folder. this will save all beats, chops, sequences, etc... this is the safest way to work.

beat sounds different from how you recorded it when you play it back? this is your QUANTIZE settings. the MPC is quantizing your pad hits as you play it and shifting the timing around to match the grid. your best bet is to turn quantize completely off.


this is basic stuff. check the FAQ at the top of this forum & read your manuals.

Ok. So when do you all use quantizing? Or do yall always leave it off

you seem new to this, so let's make it easy, forget the drums at first.

step 1: turn time correction (quantize) on, probably 1/16th for this
step 2: if you're re-making your sample with chops, then you need to first find the tempo, the metronome is the tempo of your beat so you should be able to tell, the default tempo that the MPC gives you (120) is too fast for hip hop, start in the 80 range and go from there. after that, determine how long your melody will be - 2,4,8,16 bars, and set that. finally, hit record, play your melody. this is gonna really depend on your sample's actual tempo too, just becasue it's chopped doesn't necessarily mean it's gonna sound perfect until you find the perfect tempo, its gonna take practice.

and to answer your last question, i always use the time correction feature

IPODKING wrote:Ok. So when do you all use quantizing? Or do yall always leave it off

if you want to use note repeat (to make fast drum rolls or a stuttering effect or whatever) you have to use quantize otherwise note repeat won't do anything. you can hold a pad down with note repeat on & change the quantize settings on the fly to get all sorts of timing changes.

you also can use quantize if you want to make more 'techno' style rhythmns, where the beats are straight on the grid.

or... if you are just a bit sloppy with your pad playing, it's good to have quantize on to correct your mistakes (just don't set the quantize too high. 1/16 or 1/32 should be fine).

if you have good rhythm skills & know what you want, then it's best to turn quantize off so it doesn't get in your way.


me personally, i change it up. sometimes i have it on & sometimes i turn it off depending on what i'm doing at the time.

Sooty_G wrote:

IPODKING wrote:Ok. So when do you all use quantizing? Or do yall always leave it off

if you want to use note repeat (to make fast drum rolls or a stuttering effect or whatever) you have to use quantize otherwise note repeat won't do anything. you can hold a pad down with note repeat on & change the quantize settings on the fly to get all sorts of timing changes.

you also can use quantize if you want to make more 'techno' style rhythmns, where the beats are straight on the grid.

or... if you are just a bit sloppy with your pad playing, it's good to have quantize on to correct your mistakes (just don't set the quantize too high. 1/16 or 1/32 should be fine).

if you have good rhythm skills & know what you want, then it's best to turn quantize off so it doesn't get in your way.


me personally, i change it up. sometimes i have it on & sometimes i turn it off depending on what i'm doing at the time.

you must be pretty sick if you don't use the time correction feature, i'm new to using actual pads but it still seems like it takes a lot of practice, this guy would be best off using it until he's really good at making beats in general

JesseHolmz wrote:you must be pretty sick if you don't use the time correction feature

dude you'd be surprised how good things can sound if you work with quantizing just the right stuff.. I mean solid oneshot or chop rhythm tracks, totally quantize, but stuff like basslines can benefit with a bit of sloppy! or anything that's built up in layers (eg. a layer of claps)

and if you want to get better on pads, the biggest thing for me was getting a desk of the right height.. if you're standing up and bashing pads instead of sitting, it feels WAY better..

(wait, was this thread already derailed? haha apologies.)

Disasteradio wrote:
and if you want to get better on pads, the biggest thing for me was getting a desk of the right height.. if you're standing up and bashing pads instead of sitting, it feels WAY better..

(wait, was this thread already derailed? haha apologies.)

I second the thread hi-jacking, and I also second standing up when working on the MP. Especially if your stuck on a 1000

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Real drummers don't have anything to "fix" their timing, so it you want more realistic drums, turn the quantize & full levels OFF! I haven't used the quantize or swing features in the MPC in years, and IMO, I don't see the point of loosening up tight drum programming....just tap the pattern with all the swing in the very beginning! It takes time, lots of practice, and your UNDO button out will get a workout! hahaha!
Getting the right feel out your programming is so much more than no quantizing, or full levels. This topic can either be really brief, or seriously deep.