Lo-Fi Drums

I'm sampling at a Lo-Fi rate and then tweaking it with some light FX... Sometimes the lo-fi effect for extra grit...

i saw a 303 for $160 used at guitar center...

Thats a good price... I'd pick it up if I had the money...

if it was a tb not an mc.....

greg

I'm not too familiar with madlibs so this is more just general knowledge on lofi drum sounds but a good place to start is

http://www.hollowsun.com/vintage/sr16/index.html

for sr16 16bit drum hits. Its the first thing that came to my mind since the kicks are heavy but dirty (like you were talking about).

Or try any of the old school ectro drum kits they have there.

Also sampling from vinyl is good. Someone else mentioned this and it sounded like it could work, overdriving your mixer when sampling from vinyl to go extra lofi.

Thanks for the advice... I already have the Hollow Sun collection... But I'm more of a vinyl purist... I like to hear that little vinyl crackle and hiss and that warm sound u get from vinyl... I was more justasking about that specific type of sound that Madlib gets...

Prolly my best bet is to invest in a Sansamp PSA-1 for sme extra warmth to fatten up my sounds... Then get the UAD-1 Software and use the 1776ln Limiter on my mixes in All Mode...

Lofi... Reduce bits with a bitcrusher, like the one featured in the Protools.

The MPC60 is 12bit (instead of the 24bits the 4k has for instance)
This means the MPC60 can't actually sample audio as accurately as
the 4k and therefore the drums sound more gritty!

*Another trick often used by the pro's is to record sounds through a
guitar amp, or effect pedal to distort the original sound. The best way
to record it back is with a microphone obviously. This way the sound is the
most organic because no digital algorithm can emulate nature as faithfully
as nature itself! After recording apply compression to taste. As allready
mentioned the 1176 is a killer comp for that job!

*For hihats try a static phaser...love that effect all the time!

*Don't forget that reverb is very essential to create a good sence of spaciousness.
Even if you've got the most rotten sound, total dirt and extremely
lofi...a bit of high quality reverb on it and it's got the sence of energy
from the distortion, but the quality of a high end amp.

*What you can try too is mix the original sound with the processed one
but then you must align the sounds very precisely to avoid phase problems.

Thank you vank... I know many of these methods already... Though this is very good tips for anyone else looking at this board who is looking for some tips...

I was specifically talking about Madlib's drums mainly... Freedom already covered that...

Very good tips though... Thank you...

NP, I must admit that I don't know Madlib's beats...Just sharing some thought here

yo, could someone elaborate on the "phase effect" one would want to avoid when overlaying sounds and especially drums ?


thanx to ya'll

Yes and No...It depends...



If 2 sounds are lined up exactly then triggering them simultaniously
won't cause a phasing effect (Actually it does but then it's a static phase)

If you want 2 kicks on top of eachother the you don't want the energy
sucked out because the low frequency content of the kicks cancels
eachother out....so if you want the punch of one kick and the big boom
of the other there really is no other option than to isolate both pieces of
frequency domain, either by EQ (which is not so favorable) or to actually
cut parts of the sample in a sample editor (best done one a computer
because you need the screen resolution)

Then glue the punch part and the booom part together and voila! But keep
in mind that upgoing waveform must be lined up to upgoing waveform to
avoid clicks or midrange distortion that makes to kick wobbly...this is
something you don't want...

Peace!

I know Madib probably doesn't use this tip, but here's another way to take your drums off of vinyl and give them some grime. If the drums play regularly at 33 RPMs....sample them at 45 RPMs and pitch them back down to 33 or whatever pitch you need. This is an oldschool tip, but it work great.

thanks for your help

if I understand well, the "phasing effect" is the name of the "phenomenon" caused by invert sound waves that cancel each other ?

yep

You can also sample your drumz into the PC. Changed the bit rate and use the lofi settings in recycle 2.0. They work pretty good. Matter of fact I finally got the lofi sound I was looking for doing that. (Sounds like Portishead drumz).