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By WatchYoNuggets Mon Nov 17, 2008 11:33 am
Phunnymoney wrote:I have searched and found nothing, so from what i have heard the XL has a warmer sound and the 1K has a very digital "what you see is what you get" sound. Id love to hear other XL users opinions on this ?.


Let me tell you this,

If you want a warm or gritty sound get a 12-bit sampler or an MPC 3000.
The minimal sonic differences between the 2000xl an the 1000 (I really doubt that they are any that would be even noticeable) would have zero impact on your beats or sound.
So simply get the MPC that you feel comfortable with.
By digitalanalog Sun Oct 11, 2009 2:53 am
how about in terms of sampling workflow,

are they similiar

never owned a mpc, but really want to get one now, just tried sampling a song on fl studio and its not working at all (its a fake copy)

are the interfaces the same in terms of time it takes to chop a sample, edit and assign

thanks

iono why anyone would get an mpc to do drums, i mean, piano keys do the same thing. they're just not pads.
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By maydee Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:26 am
i have started off beatmaking with fl studio and the workflow is a lot faster on software BUT it depends of your own workflow i mean if you sample mp3's off google etc and feel confortable doing it keep on working with fl but if you are patient (cause it takes time to listen to a record sample and chop each pieces that you like and flip it to a sequence in the mp) and you 're collecting records that you 're sampling go for a mpc there's nothing you can't do with any software that you can with the mpc it's just a matter of taste personally i prefer the mpc i'm more "hands on" i like the hardware feeling and i like to stay away from my computer i use a mpc 2000 xl for like 3 years and i won't use anything else for now obviously it's not the greatest machine ever it becaming outdated but i like to be limitated and don"t forget that a lot of dope records were made with less than 32mo of memory so i hope it helps
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By fasttrackpimp Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:42 am
I compared my 2k classic with my friends blue/red 1k. Here's what I noticed. The 1k had a really harsh high's and no coloring on the sounds. The sounds were as flat as they were before hand. They sounded like if you would have recorded them into fl studio. The 2k knocked some(well a noticeable chunk) of the high's off and had a warmer, muddy sounding low end. The 2k colored the sound some. Say what you want about them sounding the same and it all being the user, but that's not true. If you tweak your samples enough they'll sound the same or similar, but they don't sound the same untreated.
By pupusa.revolution Thu Dec 10, 2009 2:24 am
i own only the 1k and by only watching lots of youtube videos of both 1k and 2kxl i can honestly say that the drums played on 2kxl sound so much more crisp thumpy and tight compared to this 1k...
i would agree on what somebody said here... 1k sounds more digital .. like a frekkin pc


if i knew this before i bought this 1k i would totally go for a 2kxl

how often do i even move your mp? who cares about weight ? and for those who do gigs.. xl just looks more cool anyway
By master-ceo Mon Dec 14, 2009 12:07 pm
fasttrackpimp wrote:I compared my 2k classic with my friends blue/red 1k. Here's what I noticed. The 1k had a really harsh high's and no coloring on the sounds. The sounds were as flat as they were before hand. They sounded like if you would have recorded them into fl studio. The 2k knocked some(well a noticeable chunk) of the high's off and had a warmer, muddy sounding low end. The 2k colored the sound some. Say what you want about them sounding the same and it all being the user, but that's not true. If you tweak your samples enough they'll sound the same or similar, but they don't sound the same untreated.


+1
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By padlock Mon Dec 14, 2009 4:10 pm
ive had my 2500 w jj1 for over 3 yrs, got an xl w/8 outs, fx n memory about 2 yrs ago coz it was local and wanted to experience the limitations etc.. used it for over a yr then moved back. coz it freezed on me a few times when it was hot and i got too quick for it, when switchin modes too fast. on the 2500 thats not a problem, it just hangs for a bit sometimes.. im fairly quick with the xl and a master on the 2500. it gives me way more room to be lazy with the memory, and copy programs etc.

only 4 programs at a time on the xl is pretty limiting for me.. is there any way to use more? ???

the xl did have a certain bright color to it and emphasis some low mid and some mid hi frequencys. where as the 2500 is flat i guess. the resonance is alot better on the xl and that is the biggest diference soundwise for me, the lpf has a warmer sound on the xl too imo. the 2500's filters are pretty good and you can shape the sounds way easier w/two filters. using the xl was a bit more fun, finding zero crossings was much easier on the xl, rounds the sound a bit more.. i can get a smoother sub bass sound from my 2500 with the two filters but still needs a good tweak.. i thought the xl's fx-filter sounded great and was alot better than 2500.

loading the waveform in trim is really slow in comparison but while timestretch is really slow it is much better than the 2500. the 2500 timestretch can get really grainy and might have to retry 10+ times to get it tight on the xl was good most the time and sounded better.

they can both get dirty, i don't think that's the issue.. it's what you put in and knowing how to get that sound. they both don't sound amazing from scratch, you have to tweak both in some way to punch the sound out imo..

unlike my korg esx which i had a a yr before i got my 2500, just turning up the tube gain was bad ass. i still have all machines, this makes me want to fire up the xl and get busy.

i switched back to the 2500 bcoz of the much faster workflow, +1 on input thru being one of the best features compared. i might dust off the xl before i decide to sell it.. it's mint fully maxed w/card reader i installed. i bought it for $1400 :oops: before the card reader a bit over 2 yrs ago. i doubt i'll get that back, lol!

happy i got it though, much different workflow, both fun.. 2500 is a beast! hd is a big plus!
By DaProductWarp Sat Jan 16, 2010 11:22 pm
maydee wrote:i have started off beatmaking with fl studio and the workflow is a lot faster on software BUT it depends of your own workflow i mean if you sample mp3's off google etc and feel confortable doing it keep on working with fl but if you are patient (cause it takes time to listen to a record sample and chop each pieces that you like and flip it to a sequence in the mp) and you 're collecting records that you 're sampling go for a mpc there's nothing you can't do with any software that you can with the mpc it's just a matter of taste personally i prefer the mpc i'm more "hands on" i like the hardware feeling and i like to stay away from my computer i use a mpc 2000 xl for like 3 years and i won't use anything else for now obviously it's not the greatest machine ever it becaming outdated but i like to be limitated and don"t forget that a lot of dope records were made with less than 32mo of memory so i hope it helps



I'm with you on the whole "old School" feel, i enjoy the challenge of doing things the old fashion way, thats why i plan on getting an MPC soon. The sound quality for me isn't a big issue right now, as i can just tweak it out through my DAW.
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By Lampdog Fri Nov 15, 2013 12:57 am
Beater Bang wrote:If you are building an analog setup, 2000/2000XL.

If your environment is digital, 1000.

That makes zero sense.