Direct recording feature request

jimmie wrote:
No, that's not what we mean.
What the video doesn't really show is the fact that you can have your track already playing and looping around whilst you are messing around with the thing you are going to record... then when you feel like you've got a good riff going on you just hit record and it records it. It means you don't lose your flow by having to stop everything then hit Rec+Play.
I used to mess around with a synth or vocal through effects whilst my track was playing. Some effects take a second or so to actually build up into the sound you want to record, so recording from a dead stand-still will have the beginning of the sound dryer than you want.
But, the main, uber-priority for me is being able to jam along to my mpc and get in the moment, then bang record it without stifling my flow by stopping. It's actually a bigger pain in the ass than it sounds.

I'm feeling you on this one now. It seems like it's a glitch in the record button not triggering when the MPC is playing. The reason why I say this is because I turned off the "click in REC" and the record button does nothing-like it's stuck.

As for the loop, I think he designed it with loop a sample in mind and not continuous loop of audio record with the sequencer-like you want.

To fix your problem all JJ has to do-in my opinion- is on the F1 Button add one more option-three options instead of two.So when you press F1 it will scroll through the word options:LOOP ALL,LOOP OFF, and the new option LOOP AUD- to loop the Audio track to the beginning over and over again.

I wonder if it's the 1000's hardware causing it not to record on the fly because it doesn't work for MIDI or DRUM either. I could of swore my MPC 2000 was capable of on-the-fly recording while the MPC was in play.I could be wrong I will send my post (or you can do it) to JJ but first does my response hypothetically solve your problem.

It isn't a 'glitch' or JJ would have 'fixed' it years ago.
Audio tracks loop anyway, so I have no idea why you are suggesting a 'LOOP AUDIO' option.
Punch-in audio recording on-the-fly is available on the AkaiOS and FYI I own an mpc2500.

I've posted a request in http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=77422&start=570.

woops here's the thread -

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=108378

jimmie wrote:It isn't a 'glitch' or JJ would have 'fixed' it years ago.
Audio tracks loop anyway, so I have no idea why you are suggesting a 'LOOP AUDIO' option.
Punch-in audio recording on-the-fly is available on the AkaiOS and FYI I own an mpc2500.

I've posted a request in http://www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=77422&start=570.

I think the biggest issue is communication right now....I just ask you a question and you didn't answer it.I gave a solution to the problem and you went in a different direction.

JJ does not have the staff to deal with customers unsolvable confusion; here I am taking the time to understand your issues (and I gave a solution to your issues -not mine-within the parameters of the JJ OS and MPC) and you just ignored it.

So, I ask you to re-read my previous post and I think we can present a clear and concise solution to JJ for your ongoing issue.

By the way, If you think any JJ OSes will have the words or features of "direct record" guess again. I read the old post and every one states we want the direct record feature from Akai-Again "It's not going to happen".

The reason is copyrights:If JJ did that request, it could jepordize the whole JJ project with a court ordered injunction from Akai. I feel this is selfish of you to request "direct Audio" over and over again and put us all at risk.

Now back to my previous post....Think before you answer....I used the word glitch loosely and I gave you ways to fix the Audio feature in the JJ OS to your liking...will it make you happy...If you want me to explain I will...as for "Direct recording" like Jay Z said in the blueprint 3"We off that"

BLACK DORIS wrote:woops here's the thread -

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=108378

I read it, same issue of communication,no direct response for JJ to understand.So,any thing he does wont be good enough...Please respond to my previous post.

I have no idea what you are talking about anymore. I gave straight forward responses to what you said and anyone should be able to see and understand that.
You gave no solution to anything and what question exactly was I supposed to answer? My response plainly stated that everything you said was wrong, whilst trying to remain polite.

So, you think that if JJ made it possible to punch-in, overdub record whilst the mpc is playing, he will have a court injunction put on him?
I really don't understand your reasoning and logic evil, so yeah, there is definitely a communication problem.

evil A Sulli wrote:By the way, If you think any JJ OSes will have the words or features of "direct record" guess again. I read the old post and every one states we want the direct record feature from Akai-Again "It's not going to happen".

The reason is copyrights:If JJ did that request, it could jepordize the whole JJ project with a court ordered injunction from Akai. I feel this is selfish of you to request "direct Audio" over and over again and put us all at risk.

wtf are you on? oO
All I want is for overdub to work when recording an audio track. I don't care what it's called, lol!
Can you please state where you got your hard facts about copyright infringement if JJ made overdub work when recording an audio track.
Either you are associated with JJ, so please come out and say it (my money is on being the guy who promotes JJSeq) or... well, I really don't know where you pull this isht from.

jimmie wrote:
wtf are you on?

I'm on something called helping people-who sometimes don't deserve to be helped.

jimmie wrote:
I don't care what it's called, lol!

I know you don't care and this is why you don't understand.

jimmie wrote:
Can you please state where you got your hard facts about copyright infringement if JJ made overdub work when recording an audio track.

The phrase copyright infringement is self explanatory. Is it not amazing a person who has a device that can do this easily doesn't understand the concept of using someone else's work commercially without permission.

Please watch the video you posted of some guy using the MPC and tell me what key did he press to initiate the record.

Jimmie will write:The F6 key

Evila Sulli will write:Good job jimmie. Is that key the same as the big red square with REC above it.

Jimmie says:NO

Evila Sulli states: Excellent, now I can explain the glitch to you. For whatever reason JJ chose the RED REC button over the function key. This red REC button does not work after you press play/start-for audio,Midi or a drum sequence. FYI, I'm using a MPC 1000.

I can tell it's a glitch because the undo lights up a tad -not fully- when you press play start. When you press stop undo lights up fully.This is not bottle rocket science.

Also, if you go into the sample screen and press play/start you can press the F6 function key to record on the fly.

So, getting back to the question you never answered about solutions.

Either JJ adds record by function or fixes the glitch on the red REC button. I think it may be easier to move the F2 function(TC/CLICK) into the global screen(because there is no room on the main screen) and add RECORD as the F2 function.

Lastly the F1 function key can be used to toggle three options instead of two.The third and new option must be loop audio-LOOP AUD. Why,because you can't have the audio track loop.You can for the sequence but not the audio.

jimmie wrote:
Either you are associated with JJ, so please come out and say it (my money is on being the guy who promotes JJSeq) or... well, I really don't know where you pull this isht from.

I know everyone on this forum-including me- is looking for the "The JJ Man" to holla at us, but I'm not holding my breath because as a small time programmer myself I understand he's busy.If you really wanna know where I pull this isht from...I must answer ...its a secret...

evil A Sulli wrote:

jimmie wrote:wtf are you on?

I'm on something called helping people-who sometimes don't deserve to be helped.

Your help is useless, irrelevant and childish.

evil A Sulli wrote:

jimmie wrote:I don't care what it's called, lol!

I know you don't care and this is why you don't understand.

Come, come now.. How does that make any sense evil?
Recording an audio track whilst the sequence is playing should be called something? Why should it have a name? Why can't it just be overdub?

evil A Sulli wrote:

jimmie wrote:Can you please state where you got your hard facts about copyright infringement if JJ made overdub work when recording an audio track.

The phrase copyright infringement is self explanatory. Is it not amazing a person who has a device that can do this easily doesn't understand the concept of using someone else's work commercially without permission.

You are a childish moron.
I say again, to help you understand:
If JJ made it possible to record an audio track whilst your sequence is playing, why do you say it is copyright infringement? Where are you getting your facts from to prove this?

evil A Sulli wrote:For whatever reason JJ chose the RED REC button over the function key. This red REC button does not work after you press play/start-for audio,Midi or a drum sequence. FYI, I'm using a MPC 1000.

I can tell it's a glitch because the undo lights up a tad -not fully- when you press play start. When you press stop undo lights up fully.This is not bottle rocket science.

The Overdub button doesn't work when you press play. No shit sherlock -.-

evil A Sulli wrote:So, getting back to the question you never answered about solutions.

You have no solutions. And since when were you any kind of authority on programming JJOS?

evil A Sulli wrote:

jimmie wrote:Either you are associated with JJ, so please come out and say it (my money is on being the guy who promotes JJSeq) or... well, I really don't know where you pull this isht from.

I know everyone on this forum-including me- is looking for the "The JJ Man" to holla at us, but I'm not holding my breath because as a small time programmer myself I understand he's busy.If you really wanna know where I pull this isht from...I must answer ...its a secret...

If you're JJ, I'm Stephen Hawking from a galaxy far, far away.

evil A Sulli wrote:

jimmie wrote:I don't care what it's called, lol!

I know you don't care and this is why you don't understand.

Then jimmie wrote:Come, come now.. How does that make any sense evil?
Recording an audio track whilst the sequence is playing should be called something? Why should it have a name? Why can't it just be overdub?

First you don't care what it's called then you want to name it overdub. Well I'm sorry to say it's called "Audio". Sorry Kanye you can snatch a mic from Taylor Swift but not JJ...I guess a name change will fix the problem...not..A lot of things don't make sense and I'm not going to name names.

jimmie wrote:The Overdub button doesn't work when you press play. No **** sherlock -.-

You're welcome...

jimmie wrote:I've always been really surprised that this has not been possible. I can't comprehend why it isn't possible.

I agree 110%

evil A Sulli wrote:So, getting back to the question you never answered about solutions.

jimmie wrote:You have no solutions. And since when were you any kind of authority on programming JJOS?

I have none I'm here trying to make people understand why....

People on these forums, please understand the posts above are reasons to understand why JJ doesn't respond to people and forums.

Many people tell me I explain things very clearly and I cannot get jimmie to understand.
So, try to feel JJ's pain in trying to code and responding to forums about requests.If JJ tried to respond to people like Jimmie it would be a waste of time.

JJ appreciates, all the buyers of the JJ OS, but please understand some people will never be happy and will always want more-with their gold fish mentality.

Look at some of the feature requests:

jimmie wrote:Just an idea:

You could make it so that when the OS is being installed, the user can choose which features they want, in order to make room for the features they use.

e.g.
My selection would be:

ARPEGGIATOR: NO
CHORD: NO
PATTERNS: NO
AUDIO TRACKS WITH OVERDUB: YES
LIVE GRID EDIT EDITING: YES
FULL Q-LINK FUNCTIONALITY: YES
Also, be able to turn off page-scrolling in grid edit whilst sequence is playing.

This is selfish and a complete waste of coding time.If you don't like the feature don't use it-it's as simple as that. Just take one second to think, is this feature worth the coders time.

Look I will admit to some dumb ides in my life, and I learned every thing I think of may not work.If Kanye West would of said Taylor swift can I please borrow that mic...it's still wrong to invite your un-thought-about ideas when it makes no difference- especially at the wrong time.

Lets be honest, we should just ask JJ for the Ultimate feature: A feature that will make a hot, radio ready beat that makes me millions.This is a feature that will never happen and no software or hardware manufacturer can make this feature happen.

I did something that many people wished JJ would do and thats to respond to the MPC forums-as you can see it's a waste of time.

Your complete lack of understanding amazes me.
You Sir are an idiot.

jimmie wrote:You Sir are an idiot.

I agree with you.
+1

jimmie wrote:Your complete lack of understanding amazes me.
You Sir are an idiot.

What I don't understand is you, at first you don't care about the feature and now you do. Hmm please read your post and think about the name you just called me. If you forgot, here is the post viewtopic.php?f=25&t=67231

Well over 8 months ago jimmie wrote:Fresh MPC 2500 owner and I bought it.

20 x faster chopping!! much, muchhhhh better.

I'm not bothered about the change to Direct Record though which makes you have stop the sequence, then arm and record your audio! (or is there a way to record on the fly with JJOS 5.0.3 that I've missed?).

Also, inconsistent fonts is a usability no-no, but no biggie.

Well worth it for the much, much, much improved trim functionality

I have no words for your behavior...

Jandpoint wrote:

jimmie wrote:You Sir are an idiot.

I agree with you.
+1

You should be more careful in life who you agree with because you're just as bad as him. Monkey see Monkey do or is it the blind leading the blind...Ill let you pick your poison.

evil A Sulli wrote:

jimmie wrote:Your complete lack of understanding amazes me.
You Sir are an idiot.

What I don't understand is you, at first you don't care about the feature and now you do. Hmm please read your post and think about the name you just called me. If you forgot, here is the post viewtopic.php?f=25&t=67231

Well over 8 months ago jimmie wrote:Fresh MPC 2500 owner and I bought it.

20 x faster chopping!! much, muchhhhh better.

I'm not bothered about the change to Direct Record though which makes you have stop the sequence, then arm and record your audio! (or is there a way to record on the fly with JJOS 5.0.3 that I've missed?).

Also, inconsistent fonts is a usability no-no, but no biggie.

Well worth it for the much, much, much improved trim functionality

I have no words for your behavior...

Jandpoint wrote:

jimmie wrote:You Sir are an idiot.

I agree with you.
+1

You should be more careful in life who you agree with because you're just as bad as him. Monkey see Monkey do or is it the blind leading the blind...Ill let you pick your poison.

I say good and bad.
jj trajectory was high and now is on the floor.
charlatan idiot!!

wow... I can't believe I just read through this.

evil... you're accusing jimmie of not understanding you, but in reality, it seems that you're the one who is misunderstood. go to guitar center, get on the mpc2500 or the mpc5000 and try out direct recording and you'll see that you're the one who's wrong here. audio tracks can't do what jimmie wants to do.

and that talk about copyright infringement was just silly. as if Akai is going to go after JJ just for stealing the term "Direct Record" when the entire JJ OS was originally born from the Akai OS, lol.

Mike Feedback wrote:wow... I can't believe I just read through this.

evil... you're accusing jimmie of not understanding you

Jimmie understands me because he said "No $h1t sherlock"...that tells me he understands the difference between pressing the Function key that works and a Transport key that doesn't work.

I honestly don't think he understands himself. He makes a post to get some help and I try to help. Next thing you know, Jimmie acts like I didn't solve his problem and come to find out he doesn't mind the feature not working the same.

Mike Feedback wrote:evil... you're accusing jimmie of not understanding you, but in reality, it seems that you're the one who is misunderstood.

I am misunderstood and so is JJ and the JJ sequencer.Mr Feedback please take a look at the this post about the MPC Maid in the JJ OS forum slot:http: //www.mpc-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=87072

People are not talking bad about it like the JJ-Sequencer.I find this stunning.Here is someone who is trying to create a program better than(IMO) the MPC Maid and he's not getting his proper respect. JJ gave me something Akai denied me of:The best OS possible for the MPC 1000.

Lets not forget why people are bashing JJ...just because he's not trying to implement everyone's impractical features. Or how bout this...you don't answer emails like Mr. Linn Drum.This one is even better...I need this feature to make my life complete...

People are so ungrateful to the point they keep trying to bite the hands that programs the their code.

Mike Feedback wrote:and try out direct recording and you'll see that you're the one who's wrong here. audio tracks can't do what jimmie wants to do.

How am I wrong when you see the guy press the function key in the video while he is using a MPC 2500.On top of that, I gave a solution to solve the problem.

Mike Feedback wrote:and that talk about copyright infringement was just silly. as if Akai is going to go after JJ just for stealing the term "Direct Record" when the entire JJ OS was originally born from the Akai OS, lol.

There is something called fair use, so JJ can make software for any hardware as long as he doesn't steal code.

Don't put it past any Corporation to not go after the small guy thats starting to get large. If you ask me JJ is causing the MPC 1000 to sell and become legendary like the SP1200 turntables, that kept records alive for so long.

People own JJ an apology and need to start giving JJ his "Props"

PS You think I could post an Apple program on a PC Forum and have people say continuous good things about it like the MPC Maid did.Then turn around and bash the PC software...Amazing simply amazing...