Thanks guys...been hittin a dry patches for the last month and a half... you know how it goes...started writing something inspiring again this weekend....got the old juices flowin again....
Been using some orchestral samples, but i'm needing to do a little time stretching on them....Is the MPC any good with orchestral samples...i know it's got its own little orchestra setting...but lemme know if it's worth investigating.
By Shawn Roos
Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:07 pm
By cyrus
Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:31 am
im not sure how teh record stores are in SA....but id say part of the "sampling esscence" is buying old records, putting them on a turntable, and searching for your samples, and just listening to good music.
Dont limit yourself to funk and classical cds.....if all you do is sample cds, you wont get that basement inspiration of diggin for an old record, that looks crazy and could be shit then finding a great loop! ya know? its like the reason i sample is because i love my record collection, i love it like its an adventure....like digging through old pictures and remembering things that made you happy.
you also get instant gratification from sampling records, cause you can sample them right into the mpc, and skip the needle to random parts of the record, then cue it up. whereas teh cd you ahve to listen chop on compouter, etc.
part of my track making is based all of inspiraton of finding something thats hot at the moment the needle hits it...i grab it, then begin making a track, not setting it a side and then going back: i dont necessarily have to finisht the track, but i cought the inspiration ya know? eventually you get good at know what to sample, whether its a stab, chord, or tail end of a vocal, whatever, youll be able to turn something no one will ever recognize into something.
i say get a turntable and some old dusty records, then youll see what sampling is about(the classic way), and get inspired! honestly, cds is not fun.
btw. i have like atleast 400 records(if not more, never really counted) but i probably have like 5 funk records! I guess my point is, maybe youll have more fun if you check out some other types of music, if anything, itll inspire you to try something differant.
peace
Dont limit yourself to funk and classical cds.....if all you do is sample cds, you wont get that basement inspiration of diggin for an old record, that looks crazy and could be shit then finding a great loop! ya know? its like the reason i sample is because i love my record collection, i love it like its an adventure....like digging through old pictures and remembering things that made you happy.
you also get instant gratification from sampling records, cause you can sample them right into the mpc, and skip the needle to random parts of the record, then cue it up. whereas teh cd you ahve to listen chop on compouter, etc.
part of my track making is based all of inspiraton of finding something thats hot at the moment the needle hits it...i grab it, then begin making a track, not setting it a side and then going back: i dont necessarily have to finisht the track, but i cought the inspiration ya know? eventually you get good at know what to sample, whether its a stab, chord, or tail end of a vocal, whatever, youll be able to turn something no one will ever recognize into something.
i say get a turntable and some old dusty records, then youll see what sampling is about(the classic way), and get inspired! honestly, cds is not fun.
btw. i have like atleast 400 records(if not more, never really counted) but i probably have like 5 funk records! I guess my point is, maybe youll have more fun if you check out some other types of music, if anything, itll inspire you to try something differant.
peace
By Shawn Roos
Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:18 am
Thanks Cyrus. I was actually just thinking this morningwhile i was lying in bed..."I gotta stop sampling CD's. I need to get a turntable." Then i read your post, now i'm buying a turntable.
There are like 3 record stores in Cape Town....the good thing is that there are about that many guys, actually sampling LP's. I've been wanting to do it for ages, but have been buying other gear.
I can't scratch, dont want to scratch, but do i still need a cross fader box? Or can i hook up my turntable directly into my MPC? I have a funny feeling that those boxes got little pre amps in em...am i right?
Have you had any of your stuff recorded and released? What's the deal with sample clearing, if its small and insignificant can i just "forget" to clear it?
There are like 3 record stores in Cape Town....the good thing is that there are about that many guys, actually sampling LP's. I've been wanting to do it for ages, but have been buying other gear.
I can't scratch, dont want to scratch, but do i still need a cross fader box? Or can i hook up my turntable directly into my MPC? I have a funny feeling that those boxes got little pre amps in em...am i right?
Have you had any of your stuff recorded and released? What's the deal with sample clearing, if its small and insignificant can i just "forget" to clear it?
By Eemo1
Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:06 am
if you just sample, you don't need a mixer with it. just make sure you have a line-out (the new dj turntables have them) in the tt. if you only have a regular phono-out, you need a preamp or a dj mixer between the tt and the mpc.
don't know soundwise, but you could get away with a portable turntable too. vestax handytrax or the new numark. think they both have a line-out. then you have a tt to sample with AND you can take it out when you're finding some records.
don't know soundwise, but you could get away with a portable turntable too. vestax handytrax or the new numark. think they both have a line-out. then you have a tt to sample with AND you can take it out when you're finding some records.
By cyrus
Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:11 am
i dont think id neccessarily worry about clearing the samples....thats like the last step, i mean, worry about making hot shit, then if it goes somewhere; youd really have to put something on the map for someone to notice; and if your in that situation, youd probably have it taken care of.
but part of the art is fliping those samples so that you cant recognize them.
alot of dudes interpolate samples. that is, flip the sample, then play it out with your own instruments/keyboard. that way you dont have to worry about clearing. with clearing you gotta worry about 2 things, the composition rights, and the recording rights.....if you interpolate you eliminate the recording rights, and if you flip it good, like rearrange the melody, you eliminate composition rights.
dr.dre does this....im sure that alot of up coming producers like kanye west, sample stuff, but when it comes time to clearing, it might be cheaper to pay a musician to play out the beat, so that you dont have to pay sample royalties. average dudes cant afford to pay musicians, so we stick with samples.
BTW. im no expert, this info is just stuff ive learned from browsin the net.
peace
but part of the art is fliping those samples so that you cant recognize them.
alot of dudes interpolate samples. that is, flip the sample, then play it out with your own instruments/keyboard. that way you dont have to worry about clearing. with clearing you gotta worry about 2 things, the composition rights, and the recording rights.....if you interpolate you eliminate the recording rights, and if you flip it good, like rearrange the melody, you eliminate composition rights.
dr.dre does this....im sure that alot of up coming producers like kanye west, sample stuff, but when it comes time to clearing, it might be cheaper to pay a musician to play out the beat, so that you dont have to pay sample royalties. average dudes cant afford to pay musicians, so we stick with samples.
BTW. im no expert, this info is just stuff ive learned from browsin the net.
peace