Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By markmorgan10 Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:33 pm
Lampdog wrote:
drunkmonkey5556 wrote:so how can you track out of the asr-10 without having the 8 output expander?

Main outs, 2 ch maybe.


+1

Bounce down tracks
Pan tracks/instruments and change volume as you see fit...

I do this - its easy enough.
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By dabmeister Mon Dec 07, 2009 6:48 pm
drunkmonkey5556 wrote:what do you mean bounce down tracks


I think he meant "buss", as in routing and sending of multiple tracks to the main stereo outs.
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By dabmeister Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:14 pm
Though we're discussing the fundamentals and functions of the ASR, I'm going to be frank and admit I haven't used this technique of bouncing tracks since I was tracking analog w/ my Tascam 688 midistudio decades ago.

It was a necessity back then because track 8 was also dedicated to holding the midi sync tone that sync'd everything else in the studio.

This of course left me with 7 tracks to work with, so the only solution I had was to copy/bounce whatever available 6 tracks to the one open track then erase them and start on the next available track.

This def degraded the sound quality because of the media I was using, but it served its purpose without a doubt.

This of course isn't the case now-a-days because of virtual/ghost tracking, but it still has it's place as something to fall back on if necessary.
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By Lampdog Mon Dec 07, 2009 8:49 pm
dabmeister wrote:This of course left me with 7 tracks to work with, so the only solution I had was to copy/bounce whatever available 6 tracks to the one open track then erase them and start on the next available track.

I think is the perfect example, that's exactly how I was thinking of it.
My guess is that's what markmorgan10 was speaking on also.

Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By markmorgan10 Mon Dec 07, 2009 9:47 pm
Lampdog wrote:
dabmeister wrote:This of course left me with 7 tracks to work with, so the only solution I had was to copy/bounce whatever available 6 tracks to the one open track then erase them and start on the next available track.

I think is the perfect example, that's exactly how I was thinking of it.
My guess is that's what markmorgan10 was speaking on also.



and your guess sir would be correct. Dabmeister I also had a Tascam ministudio a (cough) few years ago so got into the habit of bouncing tracks.

M
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By dabmeister Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:07 pm
markmorgan10 wrote:
Lampdog wrote:
dabmeister wrote:This of course left me with 7 tracks to work with, so the only solution I had was to copy/bounce whatever available 6 tracks to the one open track then erase them and start on the next available track.

I think is the perfect example, that's exactly how I was thinking of it.
My guess is that's what markmorgan10 was speaking on also.



and your guess sir would be correct. Dabmeister I also had a Tascam ministudio a (cough) few years ago so got into the habit of bouncing tracks.

M



True, and I guess with the recent onslaught of folks just getting into the recording game within the past decade doesn't help their cause either. Most probably never experienced having to go the long way around things compared to how things are done now.

That just makes the vets around here seem more valuable.
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By nod records Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:08 pm
you can seperate your sounds out of the ASR and record them to pro tools, etc...

here's what you have to do.

Hit Edit then Seq-Song on the ASR
Change the Clock Source from Internal to MIDI

Set-up the ASR as a MIDI device in Pro Tools.
Run a midi in and out cable from Pro Tools to the ASR

Turn MIDI Beat Clock on in Pro Tools.

Solo one of your tracks in the ASR.
Now when you hit Record in Pro Tools it will trigger the ASR.

do this for all your sounds (tracks) in the ASR and for all your different sequences.

Make sure you set the temp in Pro Tools the same as the ASR.

once you got all your sounds in Pro Tools, put it in grid mode and copy and paste away for your arrangement.

Hope that helps or at least gets you on track.
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By drunkmonkey5556 Mon Dec 07, 2009 10:46 pm
nod records wrote:you can seperate your sounds out of the ASR and record them to pro tools, etc...

here's what you have to do.

Hit Edit then Seq-Song on the ASR
Change the Clock Source from Internal to MIDI

Set-up the ASR as a MIDI device in Pro Tools.
Run a midi in and out cable from Pro Tools to the ASR

Turn MIDI Beat Clock on in Pro Tools.

Solo one of your tracks in the ASR.
Now when you hit Record in Pro Tools it will trigger the ASR.

do this for all your sounds (tracks) in the ASR and for all your different sequences.

Make sure you set the temp in Pro Tools the same as the ASR.

once you got all your sounds in Pro Tools, put it in grid mode and copy and paste away for your arrangement.


thanks man yeah thats what i was looking for, do i need anything else besides midi cables? can i get ones that go to USB? or do i need some sort of interface

nod records wrote:Hope that helps or at least gets you on track.
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By nod records Tue Dec 08, 2009 12:08 am
you will need some sort of MIDI interface with 1 in and 1 out. and 2 MIDI cables.

it should work with garage band, but i never used that program.

it def works with my mbox2 and pro tools.

that's how aesop, blockhead, necro, me and a bunch of other people dump tracks out of the ASR to Pro Tools.


it's a bit of a pain to have to dump out the sounds for each seq from the ASR to Pro Tools. i always let the seq run thru twice, so when i chop it in grid mode in pro tools, it's on point.

once you get it down tho, it's easy. it's great to arrange your tracks in Pro Tools tho. you can do killer drops and stab sound in afterwards. very creative way to work... plus the ASR sound so warm!!!


good luck
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By drunkmonkey5556 Tue Dec 08, 2009 1:52 am
cool, thanks

nod records wrote:
it's a bit of a pain to have to dump out the sounds for each seq from the ASR to Pro Tools. i always let the seq run thru twice, so when i chop it in grid mode in pro tools, it's on point.
good luck


i dont get what you mean by this, what do you mean dump out the sounds?
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Re: Ensoniq ASR-10 help, for ASRonians.

By Lampdog Tue Dec 08, 2009 5:00 am
dabmeister wrote:Most probably never experienced having to go the long way around things compared to how things are done now.

+1
drunkmonkey5556 wrote:i dont get what you mean by this, what do you mean dump out the sounds?

R U ever going to catch on to any terminology big man, or just wonder and ask all the time :lol:
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