Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Fung45 Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:59 am
Tutorial? Like something you read or watch that tells you how to do something? That would be great if there were some sort of literature that would instruct you on how to use the MPC. If it did exist, and even if you didn't know how to read someone could read it to you or video themselves reading it and sell it to you. I'd pay $$$ for that.
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By JUKE 179r Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:06 pm
it's called YouTube... and it's free. :wink:
By An Angry Mohawk Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:27 pm
It should've be stated by someone but of those tutorials that are for the xl, I would say 90% applies to your 2k classic. Things that obviously don't apply would be the Timestretch, auto chromatic assignment, ide stuff, re-sampling, and maybe few other odds and ends. The point being though is that the majority of the stuff they say applies, in both technique and in operation. This goes for the sample kings dvds as well as the many videos on youtube. The things that are different though you have to be smart enough to sort out, and if a menu isnt quite in the same place use some deductive skill to figure out where it is. You ought to know the limitations of your machine, right? Otherwise I would say you haven't spent enough time with the manual. So go out and soak up that knowledge fam!
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By xabiton Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:35 pm
An Angry Mohawk wrote:It should've be stated by someone but of those tutorials that are for the xl, I would say 90% applies to your 2k classic. Things that obviously don't apply would be the Timestretch, auto chromatic assignment, ide stuff, re-sampling, and maybe few other odds and ends. The point being though is that the majority of the stuff they say applies, in both technique and in operation. This goes for the sample kings dvds as well as the many videos on youtube. The things that are different though you have to be smart enough to sort out, and if a menu isnt quite in the same place use some deductive skill to figure out where it is. You ought to know the limitations of your machine, right? Otherwise I would say you haven't spent enough time with the manual. So go out and soak up that knowledge fam!

what about sample editing/ chopping? i know the xl has zone edits how does the classic work?
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By xabiton Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:58 pm
Lampdog wrote:Classic = ZNedit

i caught that. i guess my question may be answered when i get mine in the mail but does it work the same way as it does on the xl? also im finding a lot of myths around the internet about what the 2k classic doesnt do that it really does. Im waiting for my 2k classic i won on ebay and im excited for it. My first mpc
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By Lampdog Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:03 am
Both machines have 16 levels. Only XL has Autochromatic function.

Xabiton, if you check out the classic and xl manuals, you'll see some differences
but not very many.

2k manual
http://www.forat.com/Downloads/MPC2000E.zip

xl manual
http://www.forat.com/Downloads/MPC2KXLV1.0Manual.ZIP

Check the manuals for yourself if you like.
By An Angry Mohawk Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:43 am
Yep as lampdop said, its different than 16 levels. Theres some other small subtleties like, like on the xl theres a monitor for midi signals, so you can see the chanel thats being transmitted to the mpc, zone edit is easy as cake to use on the classic and I doubt very much different than the xl, although for my money lemme use the data slider and chop that biddy by ear on the asr... The differences are so minor, there is no autochop on the classic, but theres a way to come pretty dang close to it using the 16 levels of velocity of adjusting some params and it chops the sample up for you. It may be a little janky and not as nice as the xl's autochop, but hey we make due.

What up Xabiton! Made it over from FP eh? Your gonna love it, honestly I have seen no overwhelming need for the xl, I can time stretch on the asr, granted its quite a lengthy ordeal. Or I can just timestretch on pc and sample from pc. I use it as a midi controller for Reason with ASR working with it. So I would say considering what I have, I have the best of both worlds going right now.

One thing I did was I kept thinking that I needed a 2500 or 1k because it was newer, When I would jump on one at GuitarCenter, I was way more productive nailing out a beat in like 5 mins and playing and adding after that, it seemed that the 2k would pale in comparison (I refuse to mention or use the word workflow in any context... but the 2500 was intuitive and really familliar so it just breezed on through.) and it had cf cards etc. Nope, what it was that I was not patient, or studious enough to sonI found out that everythign I wanted to do, could be done on the classic, I just needed to learn what my machine could do. So I am trying to do that and I Swear to goodness, I havent felt like I needed anything else other than What I have now and the Delta 66. Oh I would absolutely mug someone for that arp_wav sample from the 2500, it was on the demo unit. I haven't had much luck with that though...

At any rate you will see its a pretty easy machine to do stuff with, and as I can see a bit now, its nearly as capable as the xl.

If this ends up all being jibberish apologoes, tjhe muscle relaxer has kicked in and its now bed time.

Peach chillren.