Talk and share knowledge on rare records, sources of new samples, vinyl, diggin, etc
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By Doglamp Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:18 am
It's obvious the OP is troll - "Posts: 1".

mainiakist wrote:mp3's though are not actually compressed...but they have up to 80% of their musical information taken out...


That's compression. :P Lossy compression. There's two different 'compressions' - audio and data.

dj e.d.e wrote:there 2 different worlds anolog and digital, i was born in a anolog world my ears never got use to digital, i sample both ,but only when nessesary from digital.


That's ironic, because sampling converts the signal to digital. Unless you use tape, to make beats. :shock:

I do sample from files, but only if the source is .wav, .aiff, FLAC, ALAC, etc.
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By peterpiper Thu Dec 17, 2009 3:54 am
Doglamp wrote:
I do sample from files, but only if the source is .wav, .aiff, FLAC, ALAC, etc.


Isn't sampling the term for the process of recording an analog source into a digital environment?
So how can you sample an already digital file?

;)

Yes, I know what you've ment. And maybe I'm wrong and its only here in germany were the term was used this way. Yes it WAS used this way. Nowadays many people use the word sampling just as you did in your post.



peace
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By Doglamp Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:11 am
I meant sampling as in: taking excerpts from an old song and using it to make a new one. Not sure if that's 'correct'. :?:
By Top City Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:13 am
Why go dig for vinyl?


Getting to go outside and get out of the house.

Giving back to the Record Store

Paying an ode to the artist of then

Music you'll never hear any where else

Awesome art covers

Free Smells

That Bacon and Eggs sizzle

Good ol'e analog

Cheap

Having a pysical copy of music

Anticipation and suspense of getting new music you have never heard of before and going home to find out you scored big

Having a better appreciation of all types of music

Last thing....... People think you are some one important/cool when they see some dude walking with some vinyl under his arm
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By dj e.d.e Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:41 am
Top City wrote:Why go dig for vinyl?



Last thing....... People think you are some one important/cool when they see some dude walking with some vinyl under his arm

I've been doing this for many many yrs and this feeling is the next to fiening for a record, i literally get the shakes or sweats till i find it then when you find it it'slike hitting the lotto the only person with that one record.
doglamp wrote:That's ironic, because sampling converts the signal to digital. Unless you use tape, to make beats.
yeah i still do but then it yes it gets compressed when i upload to my comp, but even when i record to digital i use wav less compression yeah i use tapes and reel to reel at times ,I'm a dj by nature so i buy records still, and i still spin vinyl only
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By Menco Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:48 pm
If u want to make a few serious sample based beats u have to dig to find that sample.
Doesn't matter if ur sampling mp3's or records.

A lot of people prefer vinyl for multiple reasons as noted in the posts above.
It's not about convenience. It's about the vibe of expression. The quality of the end result. The goal overrules the means.
By mainiakist Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:58 am
Doglamp wrote:It's obvious the OP is troll - "Posts: 1".

mainiakist wrote:mp3's though are not actually compressed...but they have up to 80% of their musical information taken out...


That's compression. :P Lossy compression. There's two different 'compressions' - audio and data.

dj e.d.e wrote:there 2 different worlds anolog and digital, i was born in a anolog world my ears never got use to digital, i sample both ,but only when nessesary from digital.


That's ironic, because sampling converts the signal to digital. Unless you use tape, to make beats. :shock:

I do sample from files, but only if the source is .wav, .aiff, FLAC, ALAC, etc.



yes i know what LOSSY means..it means YOU LOST 80% :lol: seriously look it up..its not "actually" compressed like zip files or somthin it just has alot of information MISSING..
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By Ruslanio Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:01 pm
GrantB wrote:
eltoppo51 wrote:diggin for vinyl is one of the most amazing things on earth, If you don't feel the same way you shouldn't worry cos it's all down to personal preference, I also enjoy diggin on the internet, having said that, I have never found an amazing piece of music on the internet an not tried to hunt it down on vinyl.

I try and buy from shops but there is something almost equally as nice about getting that knock on the door an seeing the postman with your record in his hand...only 10 minutes ago I spent $79 dollars on 3 records from the net. original 7'' of the jeff sound track which is an old french film, a jw library record and a record called EVIL RUSSIAN BREAKS. you would not believe whats on that evil russian breaks, I've never needed to pay so much money for 10 seconds of music in my whole life.

my advice, buy yourself a vestax handy trax an try and get friendly with an independent record shop owner, but be quick cos sooner or later it will be only producers and the odd few keeping the one record shop per city open.


Do you have a track listing for the Evil Russian Breaks? I've been sampling a lot of Soviet era records. I think it's unlikely that someone could sue you for IP rights as they were produced under communism. It's hard to believe some of the funky sht that was made behind the Iron Curtain. Seems like you coulda got sent to Siberia for being that funky lol.


Haha I got at least 120 Russian Records. All of them were pressed under the Soviet Union, under one label, Melodia or something. Some of them are american bands pressed under that label.
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By dj e.d.e Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:13 pm
mainiakist wrote:
Doglamp wrote:It's obvious the OP is troll - "Posts: 1".

mainiakist wrote:mp3's though are not actually compressed...but they have up to 80% of their musical information taken out...


That's compression. :P Lossy compression. There's two different 'compressions' - audio and data.

dj e.d.e wrote:there 2 different worlds anolog and digital, i was born in a anolog world my ears never got use to digital, i sample both ,but only when nessesary from digital.


That's ironic, because sampling converts the signal to digital. Unless you use tape, to make beats. :shock:

I do sample from files, but only if the source is .wav, .aiff, FLAC, ALAC, etc.



yes i know what LOSSY means..it means YOU LOST 80% :lol: seriously look it up..its not "actually" compressed like zip files or somthin it just has alot of information MISSING..

TRY THIS WITHOUT HEADPHONES ON YOUR AMP
listen to record then listen to the same album in mp3you'll hear the loss and feel of the music. vinyl is thick bassy warm sounds better,the mp3 has a thin almost far away feel to it bass doesnt hit as hard... i like the frequency i have in my tapes...just sounds much better to me, i aint after clearity and sharpness that mp3 have ,i go for feel and warmth and much better sound,
but i wouldnt expect someone that grew up in a digital world to understand it,it's all they have heard and know...i embrace technology to a certain point. was never into CD's i prolly own 100 at the most but they never get listen to like my vinyl does.
By The Tone Ranger Sat Dec 19, 2009 3:21 am
Why go to the club, or the movies? You could get tore up at home, chill with your girl, and watch television. It's just more enjoyable to many people to be apart an involved in the whole experience of digging in the crates. I suggest if you use "IDIGG" samples to create your music that you try digging crates to find out why digging is preffered by many.