MPC 60 II chopping

ok, VERY new to this mashine.... arrived today.

i am now used the very comfortable and easy way of chopping in the ASR10... i really like it that way, but ignoring the MPC 12bit sound would be blasphemy ´, so at least i wanna use it for drums

my issue is, with the mpc 1k i never got around recording a loop (for example drum loop) and quickly and effective chop it into different parts (one shots)

becuase of that i used software to record from vinyl and PRE-chop everything there... well that was also a pain tbh.


so my problem is, while chopping a loop down to shots with the ASR is very cool and easy, but how the hell do i do this in the MPC 60 ?

or shouldnt i waste my time and only record one shots into it?

i would need a quick and efficient way to break down loops in parts and storing them as different samples on different pads...

if thats not gonna work i fear i ll really skip the mpc sampler and only sample/chop in the ASR

uhm... also:

is this normal that there is a constant peeping noise while running?
coming form the inside about wher ethe transport buttons are

The way I generally chop in the 60 is to simply sample a sound, copy that sucker, and edit the copy differently.

I use the ASR too, it has a great 16 bit sound/filters/efx and its one of the easiest samplers to chop on. I'm not a big fan of its sequencer though. Frequently I sample into the ASR, then use the data slider to quickly find the chops I want shoot them over to the 60.

There is also that method that some people like that I don't personally use often, and that is to sample a little bit of silence and use the zone edit to copy/paste stuff to those small samples. Search for it, there's a video on the tooob, and a thread about it here for the 3k. If you have OS 3.10 for the 60 it works the same way as the 3k.

what do you mean by "shoot them over to the 60" ? i am not sure how to imagine this process


about the copy/paste and zone stuff.. i am not even able to find these menues somehow... could it be that many function are only available with the 3.10 OS (wich i dont have) ?

logicaly i would expec it in SOUND>2 (edit a sound) but niether there nor elswehre found these options

well, just got it today

Sample them into the ASR, resample into the 60. The file systems are in no way compatible without a computer. The ASR has a lot more sound shaping options than the 60, since you can filter, eq, normalize, boost, etc... Resampling from the ASR into the 60 frequently sounds better than straight from a record.

You could always use the MPC editor and software chopping tools. I don't work that way, but I know lots of people do. The 60/3k are not especially fast to chop on, but it doesn't take that long to copy a sound and edit it differently.

and yeah, no 3.10 = ass out...cop that!

ok, so 3.10 a must even for not much sampling/chopping you say?

i knwo i should prolly rather ask t.f.M. but i just got this today and still learning the ASR etc

so could you give me a hint where i find these essential functions to copy/paste (i am not even sure WHERE that would take place, i only see 2 the Edit Sound pages where i can set start/end points and not much more...



dont like the software chopping either



chopping on ASR and resample seems not a bad idea, but is it worth the hassle for the MPC 60 SOUND ? or just to have more output channels in your opinion?

because using the pads into the ASR is of course neither a problem

thanks for the help mate

3.10 isn't a must for sampling and chopping, you can do that without it. I would say that 3.10 is an absolute must for overall functionality though. I personally wouldn't even want to deal the 60 without 3.10. In fact, its been nearly 10 years since I've used anything but.

There is a lot more to the 60 than just the sound (which is great), the sequencer is second to none as well. It stomps the ASR in that department. The 60 and ASR are VERY different beasts. So different that they compliment each other quite nicely.

Not trying to be a jerk, but I can't hold your hand through all this, you're gonna need to RTFM...

...I should also say that sampling a 16bit machine into a 12bit machine doesn't "hurt" the character much. Sample a 12bit machine into 16 bit, and it never thumps the way it does coming out of the 12 bit machine. I never sample my 60 or sp1200 with my 16bit samplers, it loses something. The 60 really gets its signature sound from the sequencer too. The sp sounds "better", but its limited sampling time and sequencer functionality make it different enough from the 60, that the 60 is fun in a different way.

sure bro

yes, thats why i asked if the resampling would be worth it... i ll use the 60 sequencer anyway

ok just will dif through the 60 bible next days

peace

The OG 2.12 manual is around somewhere. I'm not much help in that department, cause I haven't used that OS in a looonnnggg time.

I personally love to midi the asr to the 60/3k to use the 3ks sequencer. Each instrument in the ASR can have a separate midi channel, and this removes the limitation of only being able to use 8 (crappy) sequencer tracks in the ASR. Saving one beat on 2 machines is always a **** though.

"Each instrument in the ASR can have a separate midi channel, and this removes the limitation of only being able to use 8 (crappy) sequencer tracks in the ASR"



that sounds of much interest for my purpose, i feel like elaborating somewhen soon, id be highly apreciated

i never chained a sampler to a HW sequncer..this stuff is pretty new to me, but given that you use the same setup you are (if you want it or not) a good information resource

No problem, I'd be more than happy to help you with that! Thats really an amazing combo. When you get the basics figured on the 60, hit me and we'll discuss further.

i promise

thanks

i chop in my computer or my vp-9000.

then sample the chopped sound into the 60 over an audio cable.


this way i have more editing power, over the sample