Yamaha HS50m / HS80m???

I have the HS80's.I love them.They have nice clarity on the mids and highs and some nice bass.

actually i went from hs80m's to Mackie HR624mk2's and i have neeever glanced back. they sound incredible.

EducatedHands wrote:actually i went from hs80m's to Mackie HR624mk2's and i have neeever glanced back. they sound incredible.

Interesting, can you expand on that bit more...how you compare the two?...dont get me wrong by if I hear someone say their studio monitors sound incredible it leads me to believe they color the sound.

konc3pt wrote:

EducatedHands wrote:actually i went from hs80m's to Mackie HR624mk2's and i have neeever glanced back. they sound incredible.

Interesting, can you expand on that bit more...how you compare the two?...dont get me wrong by if I hear someone say their studio monitors sound incredible it leads me to believe they color the sound.

i was thinkin the same thing. the reason i got the 80's is cause knowing that they are gonna give you a true sound of what your beats are like so you can adjust them as need be. no fluffin it up just playing it as it is.

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I agree

The 50's are ALL MID RANGE! and are better suited for mixing a band.
The 80's are nice and balanced.
I work in a store where we have at least 7 sets of monitors hooked up at any given time, and the 50's sound waaay different than any other speaker up there. There's minor differences between the others, but nothing as drastic as the 50's.

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i am using the same monitors... but dont expect studio monitors to actaully sound "good" in matters of Hifi and pleasing... they dont do that.... since i dont listen to anything else since 3 years i am pretty much used to it.


- THEY ARE BASSY much to bassy sometimes, thats what actually pissed me off, i have to change the EQ on the back to cut some Bass so my neigbhours wont kill me, but that makes me hear less than i should of course

well but than again... i did really sub-bass heavy music last years...

and yes, the 50s are considered not to be taken seriously in studio matters compared to the 80s

you should be a happy camper when you got used to it

I think read some reviews on the 50"s and they fell short of impressive or even good, unlike the 80's

konc3pt wrote:I think read some reviews on the 50"s and they fell short of impressive or even good, unlike the 80's

same. thats why i said fcuk it and copped the 80's

jmessyuk1 wrote:

konc3pt wrote:

EducatedHands wrote:actually i went from hs80m's to Mackie HR624mk2's and i have neeever glanced back. they sound incredible.

Interesting, can you expand on that bit more...how you compare the two?...dont get me wrong by if I hear someone say their studio monitors sound incredible it leads me to believe they color the sound.

i was thinkin the same thing. the reason i got the 80's is cause knowing that they are gonna give you a true sound of what your beats are like so you can adjust them as need be. no fluffin it up just playing it as it is.

well sure, i wouldn't break them out for a party. i don't mean they sound incredible in that regard. they don't compliment the music i run through them, but neither do the hs80m's. i'm sure you'll all agree, the more time you spend mixing on a pair of monitors, the more you pick up a subconscious understanding/feeling towards them. you couldn't necessarily articulate what it is about the speakers you've come to understand, but the answer would ultimately be told in your mixes, and do you enjoy working with those monitors to achieve the results you were looking for? obviously this is why you don't buy a pair of $100 monitors. i imagine it's like pulling teeth. also keep in mind, i'm a novice basement artist. i've tried my best at making a professional room, but none of us are going to have it perfect, so take my opinions with a grain of salt. anyway.. i liked the hs80m's when i had them. if you put in work with any decent monitors, you can start to hear the "right" sound through them that will give you that overall "perfect" mix you were trying to achieve. after using the 80's for a while (maybe about 3 years or so) they started to feel a little two dimensional. i generally didn't feel like i was diving deep in to the mix, and i remember breaking many a sweat when it came time to mix. between the low end and the mids in particular (which i think are the most important things to put your time in to), mixing these elements felt like eating a peanut butter sandwich. it was cool, it was a "classic".. but after eating my pb&j every day, my ears grew fatigued rather quickly. like it was a chore mixing through them. like i was reluctantly chewing a mouth full of peanut butter. like "ok here we go again... let's get this shtt over with". i felt like the mid range was a narrow gap, that was my biggest gripe. the low end is going to be relatively non existent on a pair of 8 or 6 inch monitors, but i thought the 8 inches was unnecessary, and added to my confusion that the midrange wasn't what i needed it to be: it wasn't well defined, nor did it feel spacious and roomy. there was a feeling of "?" as far as the two elements definition and their space. the mackie's do something special for me. what is it? maybe it's the switch between 8 and 6 inch woofers? the definition and range of the mids is INCREDIBLE on the mackies. it's like a huge sweet spot to my ears. i feel like i have a football field to work with, so well defined, plenty of room for the lows and highs to work with. i mentioned a subconscious feeling of monitors... my subconscious feeling with these is like having a gigantic mid range, that i feel like i'm on lsd when i mix, i feel like i'm deeeep in the mix. so much room to work with, and still feel like there's room left for the low end and the highs to shine through. i don't play guessing games with these monitors, i know what i'm listening for. i enjoy working with them, my ears tell me they are a joy to work with. they just feel great. i find myself working 8 hours a day at times. not necessarily on mixing, because that is inadvisable. but i simply work long hours on them when i'm working on music in general, and that would NEVER happen on the 80's, my ears would be crying uncle by a couple hours. when i wake up and play music, i just play them through the monitors, i think it's done wonders for my mixing skills, since i enjoy these monitors, i still very much appreciate blasting george clinton on them, knowing damn well it sounds like i'm listening through studio monitors. i can't make this shit up, i'm bouncing off the walls to the shtt. with monitors you want flat flat flat, so you don't find any surprises in your mix later. the flat is so you're like a hunter, and the pesky animals (don't kill animals) are running around a flat field, and you can see them for miles and it's like fish in a barrel to deal with them. are the 80's flatter than the mackie's? maybe? i wouldn't be surprised nor care if someone told me it's a fact the 80's are "better". i'm 110% happy with the mackie's, i was about 70-80% happy with the yamahas. at the end of the day, the monitors need to work for you, you can't work for the monitors. that's absolutely counter productive if you're doing this as a career. time is money. i don't have time to stress over my mix, particularly the mid range. mixing is so damn important, it should be fun! i got rid of the yamahas for a reason. it wasn't fun, it was a chore. not because i technically knew what i was doing but because my ears aren't going to lie to me when they tell me they're tired and not happy. this is why i would suggest the 50s over the 80s (if you ask between which one should you go with), they are modeled after the ns-10's, which are a mid happy pair of monitors. saying you want 8 inch woofers for more low end is inevitably going to give you headaches later if you realize, like me, you want a pleasant midrange experience. you wanna feel like you've got room to run around, not claustrophobic. low end is not going to set you free. hope this helps, i tried to explain the best i could. i'm not a newb but i'm not a pro.

like i said, you've got people that will recommend the 80's. its what works for you. go test all the monitors out for a day. do it for a couple days, even. its about you and your monitors. if anything i think my opinion is stupid to listen to

I found on local craiglist hs80m for 500 or 700 with sub. gotta say I was real tempted. but ended up with with event project studio 8 for $250 which apparently compare to high end monitors from what I've read. thanks to dopedee for the advice.

thanx for all ya'll input on this

i have been using the yammys since xmas day and the more and more i use em the more i fcuking luv em.

they sound perfect. i rate these monitors and would never look back.

thanx again all.

I love my 80s so much that i actually have a pair in our studio and a second pair at home.

I put the bass on -2 because i had to put them near a corner and the highs also on -2.

with this setting my mixes turn out pretty good

the next step up will be Event Opals or Genelec 8050, but it will take a while until i gave enough Euros for those

I caught pair of 50's for $200. there perfect for my laptop studio set-up in my other room. if your in a small room they have a nice overall sound. also keep in mind what your coming out of,mixer,sound card.... if your eq'ing that makes a difference. them 80's sound great to me,there on my to get list.