Akai MPC5000's gone? (NOT OFFICIAL, JUST SPECUALTION)

so, is it gone or not? If so, expect a big price dorp and then a huge increase in about 5 years. Still wouldnt buy it tho.

here in uk the 5k is selling on its own merits(i cant confirm this).worth every penny.(if you got some skills and experience of the sampling producing world)it will make you a mint!!selling badly because its fashionable to hate this one(and price).go use your computer or mpc 60 or mv or play guitar whatever but this is a 5k area.we need some upliftin info mation to go with da upliftin new(er) mpc.there is really nothing out there with this much immediate tweakabilty and power.not perfect.sure.what is.i sure need a break from dissin.thanx in advance......

Not dissin, just dot fit my needs. Im sure with a new OS, the thing would be a beatmakers paradise. I was considering buying one a few months ago, even saw a deal on EBAY where it came with 2 BX8A speakers, cables, a Shure SM58 and a Mic stand for 1800dollars. But it is wayyy too much bang for me.

Seriously, I don't care for the 5000, for the simple fact that it won't even read sample, sequences ect... from any of my older MPC's. The 4000 beats the 5000 even on paper. So they added a synth! That was to try to compete with the MV's. Akai would have never done that to it's customers. But, Numark would. They just want you to buy new sh!t, even if it's good or bad. Mark my words, there will be a new MPC out before Akai fixes anything with the MPC 5000. The same case with the 4000. The 4000 came out before the Numark takeover, and it was not their design anyway so they dropped it. So when a so called new flagship comes out, don't hate on it! Cause it's coming.
In any case, make music with whatever you have. Peace!

bomb beats wrote:Seriously, I don't care for the 5000, for the simple fact that it won't even read sample, sequences ect... from any of my older MPC's. The 4000 beats the 5000 even on paper. So they added a synth! That was to try to compete with the MV's. Akai would have never done that to it's customers. But, Numark would. They just want you to buy new sh!t, even if it's good or bad. Mark my words, there will be a new MPC out before Akai fixes anything with the MPC 5000. The same case with the 4000. The 4000 came out before the Numark takeover, and it was not their design anyway so they dropped it. So when a so called new flagship comes out, don't hate on it! Cause it's coming.
In any case, make music with whatever you have. Peace!

What does the 4000 offer that the 5000 doesn't have?

More memory, key mapping, higher bit rates, but, I'm not going argue about which is better. The manual can be downloaded. But, won't it piss you off when they drop another MPC and there's no more support for the 5000! JJ won't be able to help you.

bomb beats wrote:More memory, key mapping, higher bit rates, but, I'm not going argue about which is better. The manual can be downloaded. But, won't it piss you off when they drop another MPC and there's no more support for the 5000! JJ won't be able to help you.

Why the totally lame attitude??

No need...

I just hate to see these newbies arguing about MPC's, and their first and only MPC is a 500, 1000, or a 2500. Then, they start talking which MPC suits their workflow. If you can get down on one, you should be able to get down on all of them! Just trying to keep it real. Tell me I'm lying. To be honest, I would have bought a 5000. But when I found out I could load my 3000 & 4000 programs, & multies I had to pass it it. I said the same about the Fantom G. But Roland stepped their game up. So, I bought a Fantom G6 and did an even trade on my Fantom X7 for a Fantom XR. (Still got SRX Cards.)

bomb beats wrote:I just hate to see these newbies arguing about MPC's, and their first and only MPC is a 500, 1000, or a 2500. Then, they start talking which MPC suits their workflow. If you can get down on one, you should be able to get down on all of them! Just trying to keep it real. Tell me I'm lying. To be honest, I would have bought a 5000. But when I found out I could load my 3000 & 4000 programs, & multies I had to pass it it. I said the same about the Fantom G. But Roland stepped their game up. So, I bought a Fantom G6 and did an even trade on my Fantom X7 for a Fantom XR. (Still got SRX Cards.)

well,good for you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

waldog wrote:What does the 4000 offer that the 5000 doesn't have?

bomb beats wrote:More memory, key mapping, higher bit rates, but, I'm not going argue about which is better. The manual can be downloaded. But, won't it piss you off when they drop another MPC and there's no more support for the 5000! JJ won't be able to help you.

um... ... the mpc 5000 definitely has keymapping.

if you are not going to take the time to know what you are talking about, or to even understand the features listed inside the machine before you take the time to hate it, ... well, ... the playground for the loser kids is over there. ==>

jacey714 wrote:

oneday2one wrote:maybe things "are going" software/hardware combination, ... but if we are just talking about the audio ins and outs and the interface itself alone, ... how can something like the 5000 ever be remotely compared to something like the maschine?

its like not in the same ball park.

Agreed...I've been using software for a long time now...and making a move back to hardware...especially for sequencer...cuz no matter what the software sequencer will not have the feel of a hardware sequencer like the MPC...

Y'all really need to pay attention and realize what Maschine actually is. There's a reason many who have "seen the light" declare it a "MPC killer". The "feel of a hardware sequencer" is definitely something Maschine has and excels at (because it essentially is one and works just like one) and goes beyond any MPC in terms of capability and integration with DAW hosts.

oneday2one wrote:

waldog wrote:What does the 4000 offer that the 5000 doesn't have?

bomb beats wrote:More memory, key mapping, higher bit rates, but, I'm not going argue about which is better. The manual can be downloaded. But, won't it piss you off when they drop another MPC and there's no more support for the 5000! JJ won't be able to help you.

um... ... the mpc 5000 definitely has keymapping.

if you are not going to take the time to know what you are talking about, or to even understand the features listed inside the machine before you take the time to hate it, ... well, ... the playground for the loser kids is over there. ==>

yeah but that doesn't change the fact that the 4k has almost double the ram and higher bitrate. Not to hate on the 5k or nothin... but the 5k with multi track HDD recorder is the MPC that should really have that 24 bit wave. It should have that 512 memory... that is why I think they screwed up right from the original design of the 5k. They should not have gotten into the trend of simply recycling alesis gear. When they put out a new mpc that wont run properly... it's all of us who lose out on it.

So why 512 MB of memory? Why not 1 GB or 2 GB of memory? The best sounding sample libraries can not be loaded into any hardware sampler on the market. Software samplers is the way to go. Since the MPC can be MIDI'd up to software samplers, any MPC is perfect for music production.

Akai is recycling Alesis gear? Have you used Roland or Yamaha music production gear? "Recycling" isn't isolated to any one company. They are all doing the same thing.

So why 24 bit? Why not 64 bits? 16 bit was the standard through 2002 or later. If everything I am listening today is recorded at 24 bits, I think I want engineers to return to 16 bit recording. In reality, none of this is important to the consumers who purchase music in MP3 format.

As far as Maschine being an "MPC-Killer", it is not. No other product on the market can match an MPC when you look at its strengths. Maschine is computer software with a control surface. Using your DAW and an MPC does nearly the same thing and even more.

If this rumor is true, I'm not losing any sleep over the loss.

séance wrote:If this rumor is true, I'm not losing any sleep over the loss.

So exactly where/how did this rumor come about..?

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