Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By Lampdog Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:04 pm
That is a GOOD read, I like it, thanks for sharing. Is that, DRAGONBALLZ for your name?

I'm a big fan of yours (dbz) lmao.
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By dbz Sat Jan 02, 2010 5:53 pm
:D it wasn't intentional to mean Dragonball I hadn't even heard of that at the time.
It's some kind of abreviation of Dannybeats (Dannybeatz) which people started to call me when I got into making beats. I always thought it was a bit corny but you can't really control what others call you sometimes. Over the years the name has stuck and a lot of people know me like that so why fight it? I just use dbz when I don't want it to be obvious.

Dragonballz is actually a great name though :lol: I might use that for a pseudonym sometimes.
I think the animation is cool, though not really watched much tbh.
Glad you're a fan of dbz! Check this tune and see if you're a fan of dannybeats :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GixDnpc7RPQ
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By Lampdog Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:13 pm
All through the intro before the beats drops I was like damn this is gonna be SOOOO
hiphop...


.....but the beat drops and it's like a martial arts movie theme song, not the hiphop I expected
BUT I can see this getting played in a movie during a fight scene or training martial arts scene.

The video goes perfectly along with the style and action of the video, pretty damn good man, not my style
of music at all but I can hear the greatness in it.
By jpeg Sat Jan 02, 2010 6:27 pm
i read illmind mixes on some cheap ass headphones think moxt peeps aint listening to songs on studio monitors so u'd think it makes sense to get ur mix sounding good on some generic speakers.

like u can listen to a dre track on some regular speakers n it wil sound fine so if u can get ur mix sounding good on some run of mill speakers chances are it will transport well on different speakers
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By mp3 Sat Jan 02, 2010 8:17 pm
^ not true at all. If you mix on computer speakers, chances are it will sound like a$$ in your car.
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By dbz Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:12 pm
Well he explains it there better than I ever could (see post #6 on page 1 and #104 on page 3)
If you mix on generic speakers you are making your mix sound good on only those speakers because of their distinctive sound. Play it on different speakers and it probably wont be right. Studio monitors are supposed to have as little of their own sound as possible, so when you play it on any other systems aftewards it's not such a problem.

I have heard of people using speakers that aren't 'monitors' because they know them well. People say you're mixing in the dark with standard speakers but maybe if you were in the dark at your house where you lived for 20 years you would still find your way around without too many problems. It could depend on the speaker as well, of course pc speakers are a no no and some standard stereo speakers will be a lot worse for mixing than others.

At present I'm stuck with some old JBL stereo speakers where I live. I have had them a long time and probably done most of my music listening in the last 10 years on them. I know them really well and I know the room sound really well so maybe I'm not doing too badly. I have real studio monitors in London where I stay sometimes and I have never really gotten better results when I've mixed on them. Probably because my mixing has really sucked in the past :lol: I do want to get some monitors here soon though, I know what I'm doing a lot more now.

It's funny you mentioned cheap ass headphones because recently I have been using a headset that is intended for skype etc. I think the bass is really boosted to help save your ears on poor quality phone calls. I used them once to start working quietly one night and for the first time my mix had too much treble :lol: Normally it has too much bass, so I've been using them as a starting point to overcome my problem. Once the treble is there I can adjust the mix on my speakers, otherwise I don't notice the treble is lacking so easily. It's unconventional but it's been working for me.

There are other factors like time limits, and style of music. If you are working to a strict time limit you need to know you are getting good results straight away, but if you have more time you can listen in various places and get an idea of where you are going wrong. Recording a live band and mixing it will give you a lot more issues than using samples and soundbanks. If you have a simple bass sound and you cut the lows on ther other sounds you might just get away with it.

It's what I like about that thread, he is helping you to get the best out of your situation. Learning to not ruin your mix will help you get better results regardless of what speakers you have. It's all relative. A pro engineer could probably get better results on a poor system than a begginer in a top quality studio imo. The better your listening situation is the less problems you will have.
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By dbz Sat Jan 02, 2010 10:28 pm
Lampdog wrote:All through the intro before the beats drops I was like damn this is gonna be SOOOO
hiphop...


.....but the beat drops and it's like a martial arts movie theme song, not the hiphop I expected
BUT I can see this getting played in a movie during a fight scene or training martial arts scene.

The video goes perfectly along with the style and action of the video, pretty damn good man, not my style
of music at all but I can hear the greatness in it.

:lol: sorry to disapoint.
It's what I like working with Lace, we don't really go for one sound. All our songs are very different. We have some that are much more Hip Hop, others that are not. Sometimes he raps and sometimes he sings. Sometimes it's in between. Payback was just one that ended up having a video so it's one of the few we have online. I think it's more of a UK thing.
Speaking of sounding like ass, the mix is pretty poor but it was a few years back and I mixed it in his bedroom on a busted up stereo :lol:
By Eemo1 Sun Jan 03, 2010 8:40 am
a good mix is made with a strong mid-range.


i get albums to mix all the time with the problems usually being that the artists/beat makers don't hear the low end decently. the reason is the speakers / the room they make the decisions in. their speakers play sub-bass areas one or two octaves higher (harmonics)... craxy boosts around 80-90hz and nothing below that.


the key is to have at least a decent acoustic environment (no **** auralex foam) and at least decent monitors.
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By dbz Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:38 pm
Your welcome everyone, I wish I had that thread a few years ago!

It is long though, haven't got much past page 10 yet myself :lol: but you just know from the start though it's going to be worthwhile.

There is one user on there condensing it into a PDF, updating it as the thread progresses so I guess if you go near the last page you could get a shorter version that covers everything so far.

Eemo1 wrote:a good mix is made with a strong mid-range.


i get albums to mix all the time with the problems usually being that the artists/beat makers don't hear the low end decently. the reason is the speakers / the room they make the decisions in. their speakers play sub-bass areas one or two octaves higher (harmonics)... craxy boosts around 80-90hz and nothing below that.


the key is to have at least a decent acoustic environment (no **** auralex foam) and at least decent monitors.


Thanks for the info, good to know.