Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
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By Gambles Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:41 pm
I have tracks that some artist like but they at times want me to speed them up or slow them down. The thing is that when I change the tempo +/- the sequence starts to go off; throwing off samples. Do you guys have any tips on how to adjust the tempo without damaging the sequence?

Uno/1

gams
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By dubmunkey Thu Aug 19, 2004 3:04 pm
if you are using loops then yse you will need to time stretch if the loop is already set it should be just a case of going into time stretch and dialling in your new tempo...

greg
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By jorge guzman Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:07 pm
if you wanna keep the same pitch it will be kinda hard, i still cant get that damn timestretch right so i cant help you with that one.. but as far as loops go u can alway mess with the tune to keep everything locked but the pitch will change on the samples..
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By Archetype_J Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:09 pm
Honestly, and this is lame, the easiest way i can think of would be to do a limited run of vinyl with whatever beat you are talking about, and the just slow that shit down on the turntable.

I mean, obviously only do this if you have some other finished tracks to put on a 12"...... but hey, it would work.

Because i believe, Gambles, you mean change the tempo on the fly, or for a recording right? If so, the timestretch idea would work, but you'd have to sequence it like 4 or 5 times, and even then, you would be able to notice the jumps........

But hey, i'm bored at work an dthats the first thing that came to mind.
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By Gambles Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:22 pm
heres a good example of what I mean. I have a sequence already done and it sounds good. But the artist can not keep up with it so they want me to slow down the track. I go ahead and slow it down but now my samples are out of sync. They are not loop samples. The drums increase/decrease without a problem; its the samples that become affected.

Uno/1

gams
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By Archetype_J Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:40 pm
Oh, shit... thats easy then. Just copy the sequence to a blank seq. Delete the track that you have the sample on. Keep the drums, and anything thats recorded as stabs, as it will change with the tempo. Assign your sample to your NV Slider (tuning), play the sequence and match the sample to the new tempo, then rerecord it.
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By Archetype_J Thu Aug 19, 2004 4:40 pm
I thought you meant you needed to know how to do a tempo change mid-song......... thats a little different.
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By jorge guzman Thu Aug 19, 2004 5:41 pm
u can also do it on whatever software u are using to record, cubase for example, but as i said b4 the pitch will change and most artist want the same sound just at a faster/slower tempo which with samples is a pain in the as*.. if its synth then just change the tempo... but like i tell mcs that come to my crib, "u suppose to be a rapper so rap, how da flowers u can only ride one tempo" unless their payin of course, then i do whatever they ask for.. :D
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By featherboy Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:02 pm
If you can get your samples into a computer, Ableton Live is great software for timestretching without the pitch changing ....... You can even stick with the limitations of the free demo version & just sample the timestretched samples off the computer with the MPC .....
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By cyrus Fri Aug 20, 2004 12:28 am
ive done this before......take your "final product" into soundforge, and timestretch the whole damn thing, drums and everything........you can only go a few-up or down, and it isnt 100 proof. Depends on whats going on. OR track the drums at the bpm you want, track the instruments as they are......i mean like the whole sequence, then timstretch. Put the two together.



anyways, ive done this because ive made beats that sound good with the sample but then i realize its more like a dance beat cause its so fast so instead of reworking it i just slow it down.


Peace.
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By dubmunkey Fri Aug 20, 2004 8:30 am
i thought he wanted to change tempo but retain pitch...

if they are perfectly pitched changeing the tempo by small amount could mean your samples are no longer in key with anything...if you pitched one sample a semitone lower that could be quite a tempo change....

greg
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By jorge guzman Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:42 pm
yo cyrus them timbs look kinda tight, y dont u untie them laces a lil :D
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By Archetype_J Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:32 pm
jorge guzman wrote:yo cyrus them timbs look kinda tight, y dont u untie them laces a lil :D



I wrote a verse last night about the good old days, and it had a line in it about butter tims.

"To a time... when Tim's had a lighter skin and the flyest pen inked the deal. Not the cat rockin' the pink and teal, cats used to think a feel....."
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By cyrus Sat Aug 21, 2004 3:18 am
Archetype_J wrote:
jorge guzman wrote:yo cyrus them timbs look kinda tight, y dont u untie them laces a lil :D



I wrote a verse last night about the good old days, and it had a line in it about butter tims.

"To a time... when Tim's had a lighter skin and the flyest pen inked the deal. Not the cat rockin' the pink and teal, cats used to think a feel....."


luv that!

guzman! you got me there....i actually dont think ive ever tied my timbos.....or shoes since i was like 8. ive even rocked the velcro 8)

peace.

btw now im rockin the peanut butter timbs, and have a butter pair on deck.