How To Fix Lines on MPC 2000XL

sonseelye wrote:1o2..if ur willing to try to make that screen work..let me know...i found the same exact one but didnt feel like soldering the ribbon pins..
it was the only one i could find in that same dot display also...

id like to know for sure..

yes, i do. if u able to help me with it i will be appreciated. thanks

Nailhead wrote:

peterpiper wrote:

1o2 wrote:thanks for your fast reply. but i did some researches and found this one http://www.futurlec.com/LED/BLUE240X64LCD.shtml. this screeen does looks the same as my mpc 2000xl.

does this lcd screen able to fix my problem?

wow. I've givin up searching for the display cause every LCD I found had 248x6x dots.

Do you know how much they want for one?

peace

You found displays with width 248 dots?
I think MPC2000s display is that. Displays what i've found are all 240 dots wide and if someone will make converter for that, the last column (text, numbers etc) on the right side will be lost. (Assuming that no changes has made to the OS. Some kind of "dirty" fix).

you're right. I mistake 240 with 248. So here we have another 240 dot display that won't work (without the "dirty" fix).

peace

sonseelye wrote:http://cgi.ebay.com/Akai-MPC-2000-XL-LCD-display-screen-brand-new-MPC-2000_W0QQitemZ190366041855QQcmdZViewItemQQptZKeyboards_MIDI?hash=item2c52b346ff

im not really truth for this item on ebay. but thnk you fortook your time n research it for me.

mr_debauch wrote:also, if you find one.. make sure it if it is for the 2000XL that it is like that ebay link with the longer ribbon cable or else you will have some fun with a too short cable... the classic stock screen's cable is a few inches shorter i believe. I saw a few screens like that last year, and I even think I read somewhere about some guy who wound up wanting to extent the ribbon.

i found one on ebay too but not really want to buy it. because of the cost and the quality.

Sovereign wrote:Looks can be deceiving.
You need to batch both the physical and electrical aspects of your current display.
As mentioned the 2k displays have been MIA for quite some time, which is probably why you got the unit so cheap.

maybe, but its works pretty good condition.

peterpiper wrote:

1o2 wrote:thanks for your fast reply. but i did some researches and found this one http://www.futurlec.com/LED/BLUE240X64LCD.shtml. this screeen does looks the same as my mpc 2000xl.

does this lcd screen able to fix my problem?

wow. I've givin up searching for the display cause every LCD I found had 248x6x dots.

Do you know how much they want for one?

peace

how much?


You found displays with width 248 dots?
I think MPC2000s display is that. Displays what i've found are all 240 dots wide and if someone will make converter for that, the last column (text, numbers etc) on the right side will be lost. (Assuming that no changes has made to the OS. Some kind of "dirty" fix).[/quote]

yes, i think the 248 is what i have on my mpc's screen and there is not column or row is missing. I will give it a try and if it didnt work i will return it back.

you're right. I mistake 240 with 248. So here we have another 240 dot display that won't work (without the "dirty" fix).

i dont get it. so which one will work with mpc 2k.

so there is something wrong with the circuit and that leads to the screen have have lines or no screen show off at all?

if its about the circuit my step bro is specialize in this position. he may able to help me out.

1o2 wrote:so there is something wrong with the circuit and that leads to the screen have have lines or no screen show off at all?

if its about the circuit my step bro is specialize in this position. he may able to help me out.

Problem is the protocol which is used between MPCs processor and display's microcontroller.
There is not public information which kind of display microcontroller is used in original display and what is the communication protocol.
In those widely available 240x64 (and many other sizes) display controller is Toshiba T6963 (or at least protocol compatible)
It is possible that Original display is compatible straight away, but what i'm looked control signals from schematic, there is some differences. It is risk to solder different display to the place of original.
But if someone could find out the original protocol, it is not very bad case to make between new display and main board some small microcontroller board, which converts "original" commands to the new display compatible.

Sorry, but i'm not native english speaking person (and was quite lazy in school). But hope you understand what i mean.

And.....

Because those displays are 240 dot wide instead of original 248, some information will be lost. 8 dots is about one character.
Of course, this could be compesated in OS modification by locating display text little bit other way. OS-programmers seems to be very large group around here

1o2 wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

Fung45 wrote:^No. Only the Akai screen is compatible. As of right now there is no fix other than replacement.

.... which costs about 300-350 bucks. Total punch in the wallet.

yeah, there are some on this site http://www.mpcstuff.com/mpc2000xlstuff.html

but its cost 300 which more than i paid the mpc 2000xl. hella money for me to afford it. i only paid 250 this mpc.

Damn I wonder why mpc-stuff dont take this item down. They know that they won't get em anymore. They just confusing the people.

http://www.mpcstuff.com/mpc2000-lcd-sc.html

This item is currently out of stock!

aha, currently since 2 years or so.


peace

probably because the only way they can sell one now is when they get a destroyed 2k and take the screen out of that, so its more like an organ donation

Grenozh wrote:probably because the only way they can sell one now is when they get a destroyed 2k and take the screen out of that, so its more like an organ donation

I tried if ape organs fill fit to the human. I looked my s2800, but it's display seems to be 240*64.

I know this subject has been discussed LOADS, but...

Do the lines tend to get worse over time (even if the MPC isn't used for prolonged hours). Just bought a 2000 classic and the seller said that every now and again one very faint line appears. After only a few hours use (the rest of the machine is pretty good condition), it's now showing from 1 to 7 lines !

Any experiences - is this the start of the end?

otisthedog23 wrote:I know this subject has been discussed LOADS, but...

Do the lines tend to get worse over time (even if the MPC isn't used for prolonged hours). Just bought a 2000 classic and the seller said that every now and again one very faint line appears. After only a few hours use (the rest of the machine is pretty good condition), it's now showing from 1 to 7 lines !

Any experiences - is this the start of the end?

As the screen heats up during use, it expands which is what creates the lines.

When the screen cools down, the lines may or may not go away.

If you can live with the lines, learn to work around them or find a donor machine to snag the display from.

Many of the parts inside the 2000s and 2000XL have some resell value (8-outs, SMPTE, EB-16, RAM, disk drive, buttons, etc) so you could part out a machine to help pay for a replacement screen

its gettting more lines by now. but why the mpc's stop selling the replacement screen.

MPCHunter wrote:
As the screen heats up during use, it expands which is what creates the lines.

When the screen cools down, the lines may or may not go away.

If you can live with the lines, learn to work around them or find a donor machine to snag the display from.

Many of the parts inside the 2000s and 2000XL have some resell value (8-outs, SMPTE, EB-16, RAM, disk drive, buttons, etc) so you could part out a machine to help pay for a replacement screen

Thanks for that.


Just spent a few hours on the machine... guess what - no lines whatsoever

*a shot inthe dark*
are the lines there when you turn on the machine?

have you tried a diffrent disc?

the reason i ask is cause i just started noticing some line n my screen too small ones, thought my screen was gong out , but i had just replaced my flopy with a zip and i picked up some used disk's at the thrift store for 99cents each and some of them i noticed have that line when i put the disc in,cause if i turn it n there not there nly when i put in the disc with teh lines on it. why it does that i have no idea but my screen is still good . just an idea dont know how bad they are on yours but on mine it looked like a hairalmost and only thru the letters not thru my samples in the trim field...weird stuff.

see if that will do anything for you