How to have those boom bap drums?

Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By acid kalle Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:10 pm
@ Fung45

why should i rec the drum break at 45 rpm or 78 rpm? i thought that was a trick using the mp 60 when there was insufficiant ram for sampling time..... but now??? or does is really have an impact on soundquality?????
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By peterpiper Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:01 pm
acid kalle wrote:@ Fung45

why should i rec the drum break at 45 rpm or 78 rpm? i thought that was a trick using the mp 60 when there was insufficiant ram for sampling time..... but now??? or does is really have an impact on soundquality?????



Yes it does. The more you speed it up before sampling the more crunch you will get. Also try to sample the signal hot (turn the rec gain up till the signal gets a bit distorted. Dont overdo thou)

peace
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By ion Mon Jan 25, 2010 8:15 pm
i would advise not to F**** up that tasty vinyl sound with some wicked cheapo VST`s man, honestly... that all just adds bits and bites...

i use compresssion only outboard and only parallel but thats me.

and yes, EQ them afterwards if you track them sounds out to the DAW!

another thing to try is layering, lik dividing a Kick into 2 sounds, so you can compress the shit out of a low volume Bottom End of the Kick and leave the top crisp etc etc...

but honestly i am most of the time happy with what i sample from wax. maybe check other records. Fusion Jazz is always great!
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By Dabblerobb Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:46 am
BGBEATS wrote:easy way ( non mpc)


go download the 30 day free ableton live 8 trial



load your desired drum samples in a drum rack and sequence out a 4 to 8 bar pattern


apply the "redux" effect to 12 bit


go into the ableton groove pool and a 58% to 70 % sp 1200 or mpc 1/8 or 1/16 groove/quantize/swing on the WHOLE pattern


boom to the bap you have different. there is a particular groove in there that should have been named "pete rock" il'l let you find that one


or do the same on your mpc using the swing setting 58% & above

youl'l be at 16 bit most mpc's.... then you can downgrade to 12 bit if wanted after going to daw




Real talk about the whole ableton part..............
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By Menco Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:36 pm
So in big lines:

1) Find a good sample

2) Record it properly (volumes, speed up vinyl or eqing before recording)

3) Chop it up right

4) Tune, filter and layer. Apply Adsr

5) Sequence.

How to do everything in detail really depends on the beatmaker, gear and workflow.
Just practice these things untill u find ur own way in it and u know what will work for you.

Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By mainiakist Wed Jan 27, 2010 5:36 am
there is such a thing as TOO MUCH COMPRESSION so dont let people tell you to constantly compress...drums only need compression once if at all! to much and your cutting all the boom bap out of your drum samples...they need to HAVE FREQUENCIES...not have them cut out when you compress them...EQ AND LAYERING are much more important for FULL BOOM BAP SOUND.
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By beach_break Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:05 pm
cool. thanks for that. i'll give this a go, just to explore my mpc more and see what i can do with this method.
(i don't make hip hop so am not interested in replicating the boom bap sound as such).

Fung45 wrote:Sample breaks off vinyl sped up as fast as possbile (45 or 78 rpm on your tt or pitch up like 9 halfsteps or more in your DAW and sample your audio outs). Pitch down in the mpc. Chop the break into parts or sounds. Don't just chop individual hits get a few kick kick or ....
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By eyefall01 Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:52 am
hold up. you have an mpc 2000 yet you work on your drums on software then export!? why dont you just get a midi controller!!! all the people you listed that you wanted too sound like dont do that! man you get style through hard work/experience and taking what you have learned and making it your own! sort it out man you might as well bin the 2000 or give to me too save it some dignity!


hip hop is NOT DIGITAL!!!! ITS ANALOGUE! RECOGNISE!
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By peterpiper Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:17 pm
eyefall01 wrote:hold up. you have an mpc 2000 yet you work on your drums on software then export!? why dont you just get a midi controller!!! all the people you listed that you wanted too sound like dont do that! man you get style through hard work/experience and taking what you have learned and making it your own! sort it out man you might as well bin the 2000 or give to me too save it some dignity!


hip hop is NOT DIGITAL!!!! ITS ANALOGUE! RECOGNISE!


???
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By Borat Tue Feb 02, 2010 2:06 pm
eyefall01 wrote:hold up. you have an mpc 2000 yet you work on your drums on software then export!? why dont you just get a midi controller!!! all the people you listed that you wanted too sound like dont do that! man you get style through hard work/experience and taking what you have learned and making it your own! sort it out man you might as well bin the 2000 or give to me too save it some dignity!


hip hop is NOT DIGITAL!!!! ITS ANALOGUE! RECOGNISE!


OK I know that all the producers that I've listed don't use VST's...
But they don't just put their sampled drums in their MPC's and play it( I tried this too, it doesn't sound really good), they add some EQ, compression, filters...
I know that what you sample is the most important thing to have good drums, but EQ etc... also plays an important part. But I just got my MPC for about 3 weeks and don't know yet what kind of EQ and compressors etc... great producers use.
So if you want to be helpful, tell me what they use rather than saying "sort it out man you might as well bin the 2000 or give to me too save it some dignity!"

Oh, and thanks to everybody who gave me helpful advices :wink:
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Re: How to have those boom bap drums?

By DJ Plan A Tue Feb 02, 2010 5:37 pm
cyrus wrote:hip hop is NOT DIGITAL!!!! ITS ANALOGUE! RECOGNISE!

:lol:
An MPC isn't exactly a tape recorder. It's a digital sampler
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