MPC 5000 or Roland Mv8800?

moyphee wrote:.Button breaks are no more common on the MV than the MPC.

See like most of the MV heads, your opinion Is very biased, as that I simply not true.

moyphee wrote:The button are on a flex skeleton and is replaced for around $20. It simply snaps into place.Button breaks are no more common on the MV than the MPC.

Thats true but this skeleton involve every button which I would be cool with, I also
would have no problem with ordering the part for 20 bucks but (and I`m really not overdrawing it) you need to take everything apart every component of the machine needs to be stripped down!
I have done it half cause I really was afraid that I couldn`t put it back together again, so I have stripped it down half and was left with about 50 screws (just to show you the picture)(still couldn't reach the f button though) so I just drip some superglue on, so it get the job doing again for now.

moyphee wrote:Not true , I think they are trying to discourage you from doing it yourself. Both main boards right out nce you remove all of the screws.

I was very eased as the MV was back on and everything worked properly (I really wasn`t sure about that at all that`s why I just stripped it down half)
And to be honest even when I ran out of warranty I wouldn`t open this machine again by myself, I thank god that the MV Is still working.

Don't forget that you also need to strip down the floppy, HD, CD drive etc. Like I said everything

moyphee wrote:i did it for an old 8000 it 45 minutes.

That's good for you really. But you know thats
very subjective, it took me 2hours to strip it down half (I'm not a technician though)

moyphee wrote:I used the control surface since I got it and have had no problems I use it about 5 days a week.

And I really feel good for you but thats not the normal case (see MV Nation) but It seems like most of the users seem to deal with it like: Damn my button is broke! Oh yeah know that you say it mine is broken too but I use the VGA so I don't need it.

But I don`t feel like that at all, It
just feels alienated when shit like that happens to a brandnew 2000$ bbox

moyphee wrote:Most importantly your box is well under warranty just get an RA and get it fixed.

Yep will do when the time is right and the fixed button break completely. But
Like any other I don't like it too much to give my shit away and being left with no bbox for a period of time.

moyphee wrote:i did it for an old 8000

Why, did you have to fix the buttons?

P.S. The rest of the MV is extremely sturdy and well build IMO, maybe that is why It makes me alienated like that.

I've read the threads. I look at the length that the box has been on the market and the number of complaints and too me it's not an epidemic. Using a 4000 for a good while before I don't think it the ultimate machine or anything. It's correcting misinformation from one party that makes it look that way.

I thought you were referring to a new 8800. That's why I thought it was under warranty.

See like most of the MV heads, your opinion Is very biased, as that I simply not true.

Again I thought you were referring to a new unit with no wear. Over the years I do agree that the mpc type buttons are more durable. if the unit was new that's rare that the flex buttons would give that soon. Most that loose buttons have had the machine for a while with almost daily. that doesn't excuse button failure just that it's routine for it to happen with no wear.


The button that got damaged was the Import button on my partners 8000 when a cd case pushed the it foward pretty bad when he overstuffed the case it was in. The button got pushed in enough that the chassis creased into the button and was going to cause problems later. the sampling button got scuffed too.

I took a pic to use as reference if i got confused and then just hit the screws with a powered driver.

* When you bought your 8000 did it come with the VGA option already installed or MV8-OP1 option?

moyphee wrote:Again I thought you were referring to a new unit with no wear. if the unit was new that's rare that the flex buttons would give that soon.

It was new, I bought the MV 8000 from my dealer who had one left in stock

I obviously did not paid 2000 grand for it (it was 1200)

Thought it was a good deal since I was going to cop a MV anyway and the 8800 doesn`t delivered
any advantages for me (everything happens in the linear seq. for me and I don`t need the VGA)

I was satisified all along the line that`s why that crappy buttons made me so mad. I mean after this short time?!

moyphee wrote:I've read the threads. I look at the length that the box has been on the market and the number of complaints and too me it's not an epidemic. Using a 4000 for a good while before I don't think it the ultimate machine or anything. It's correcting misinformation from one party that makes it look that way.

I totally agree with you on that one

4000 rules

I own an MV8800, and I've also had this problem with the buttons falling into the machine. First it was the BPM/Tempo button. I tried to open up the machine, and the circuit boards were in the way and I couldn't figure out how to place the button back in position without scaring the hell out of me, so I left it alone. Now I just push my finger inside of the machine and hit the little button inside of the machine that the real button it supposed to push into. It sucks, but I deal with it. But today about 2 hours ago the Undo/Redo button did the same thing. This button made it so quick to keep the workflow going. This forced me to plug in the monitor and the mouse, and now I'm scared to touch any buttons on the machine other than the drum pads.

FYI, I owned an MPC 2kxl for about 8 or 9 years, and never once had a problem like this. I sold it a few months ago because I needed the money and I didn't like seeing it just sitting there, so I sold it to one of my hip hop homies for him to put it to use. I'm starting to wish I hadn't. If Akai ever makes an MPC that functions as an all in one studio where you can record vocals, I will be on it like snoop dogg on chronic. The MPC is easier to just bang out beats. It took me quite a while to figure out the learning curve on the MV. I was starting to love the MV, and getting addicted to it, but today that button being pushed into it just pissed me off. I really can't stand expensive cheap shit.

ok im reading about the 5000 and it looks like you can record audio on it. i'm late on this. if any of you want to fill me in, please do. if not, i'll look it up myself. I was just mad at my Roland and did a google search and found this topic and registered so I could complain.

You can do a direct harddisk recording on the MV also. I recorded some of my dj mixes on mine but it's a helluva lot easier to do edit the track on a computer.

damn, so the MV's buttons are pretty much $hitty

In three and a half years, this is the first time I've heard of the MV having cheap buttons.

the build quality, imo, is anything but cheap.

LvngDead wrote:the build quality, imo, is anything but cheap.

+1

if you have Polish sausage fingers and gorilla heavy hands, hell yeah your buttons are going to break no matter what equipment you are banging on (literally).

to add on to the pros and cons list, cant seem to be able to get my usb connection to work with the mv8800, tried changing cables,disabling media players, disconnecting external drives etc.. damn thing will not show up on my hard drive but.... the mpc does! with everything else connected to it of course... other than this major work flow roadblock the mv8800 is a nice machine however its not for me. so im selling it, anyone interested in buying one?

Honestly... the only time I've used my MV's USB is for the OS upgrade to 3.54. The USB 1.1 is slow as Fk!!! I tried to back up my MV's samples via USB but took to gawd damn long. I ended up taking out the MV's HD and hooking it up to my MBP with an IDE to USB cable and backed up everything that way.

JUKE 179r wrote:Honestly... the only time I've used my MV's USB is for the OS upgrade to 3.54. The USB 1.1 is slow as Fk!!! I tried to back up my MV's samples via USB but took to gawd damn long. I ended up taking out the MV's HD and hooking it up to my MBP with an IDE to USB cable and backed up everything that way.

wow nice idea, i think i might try this before i sell the mv8800 to at least get all the sounds off the hd, instead of burning them to cd after cd.

Honestly, the only machine that can compare to an MV is the MPC4000.

The build on the MV is top notch and made of metal, the 5000 is just plastic. Plus for the same price of the 5000, you can get the 2500, which is basically the same thing but lacks the synth and extra sliders. But still, the price of both makes you go WTF?!

As mentioned before, the MVs are easy to use, THATS IF you had a previous Roland product like an SP or Fanthom. But if you spent your whole life with an MPC then the learning curve will be rough on you. Luckily Roland provided a Key Log to help MPC users to translate MPC operations to an MV.

In the end I would recommend the MV 8800 over the 5000. Its an all in one production studio and everything is there for twisting and pounding. You could even record vocals to your beat. Not that the 5000 can't do that, but its the ease of use that the MV brings. The 5000 kind of makes it rocket science to apply effects, when the MV just needs a simple turn of a knob.

Ill-Green wrote:Honestly, the only machine that can compare to an MV is the MPC4000.

The build on the MV is top notch and made of metal, the 5000 is just plastic. Plus for the same price of the 5000, you can get the 2500, which is basically the same thing but lacks the synth and extra sliders. But still, the price of both makes you go WTF?!

As mentioned before, the MVs are easy to use, THATS IF you had a previous Roland product like an SP or Fanthom. But if you spent your whole life with an MPC then the learning curve will be rough on you. Luckily Roland provided a Key Log to help MPC users to translate MPC operations to an MV.

In the end I would recommend the MV 8800 over the 5000. Its an all in one production studio and everything is there for twisting and pounding. You could even record vocals to your beat. Not that the 5000 can't do that, but its the ease of use that the MV brings. The 5000 kind of makes it rocket science to apply effects, when the MV just needs a simple turn of a knob.

Plastic?rocket science to apply fx?