Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By damien907 Mon Feb 22, 2010 7:50 am
i just copied and pasted this from another audio forum where i didnt get an answer to my question, so dont mind the first off i make sample based beats. i think most people on this forum does lol.

first off, i make sample based beats, so i find myself timestretching alot so all my chops fit to a certain tempo in the pre-production process of creating a beat. in logic 8 i use the option+ click and drag method; and in protools i select the time compression/expansion tool, then i just pull to a grid at a certain tempo.

lately though; i have run into some problems.
mainly, when i timestretch in logic (which i use more becuase i make all my beats in logic) it find artifacts in some samples even when timestretching very minimally; even if they are from a high quality audio source. (i do realize that time stretching works better on some instruments than others; and from what i have gathered, bass proably isnt the best thing to timestretch)

i know about the factory time and pitch machine in the sample editor, but i never use it because im usually stretching around 30 audio files to fit to a grid MINIMUM and i like to see what im doing to each sample visually. i feel if i use the time and pitch machine i wont be able to have that visual representation of my waveform and see each sample line up with one and other.

i figured this would slow down my workflow tremendously; and i definitely dont want that because stretching 30-80 samples to a grid takes long enough already even with the option + click and drag method.

so onto my questions.

1. with logic, if i set the time and pitch machine in the sample editor to another setting besides "monophonic" which i think is the default, will that also change the algorithm of the option + click and drag method that i like to use? or is the time and pitch machine a separate part of the program all together that only relates to what you have open in your sample editor at the time?
2. if i bought something like the izotope radius; would it improve my time stretching to grid tremendously?
3. if i bought the izotope radius; would i be able to use the option+ click and drag method i am used to? from what i have researched about the izotope radius is that it embeds itself into the pitch and time machine in logic; and i want to know if this will slow down my workflow.

thanks alot in advance for your replys
and if you need to know anything else, dont hesitate to ask.
i have been dying to make beats lately, but it seem that every cool sample i have found just wont timestretch right; i really want to get out of this slump i have been having and maybe a timestretch program is the right answer.
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By mp3 Tue Feb 23, 2010 10:00 pm
1. I believe so, but I'm not sure. did you check the manual?
2. Radius is a zillion times better than logic's built in timestretching algorithms.
3. not sure if its usable on the 'option-click and drag' method.

I stopped using Logic in 08, and I'm going off memory so I'm not gonna be of much more help to you. But I did get Radius and its head and shoulders above logic's built in timestretching. It will probably slow you down a bit, just because of the fact that it has more settings that you can play with to optimize it for each sample.