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By jtbez06 Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:10 am
hey guys. im looking for something that does beyond where im stuck with my korg esx 1. i love that thing but im a hoarter when it comes to deleting old beats. ive had it for 5 years and my 256 patterns are used up by now and i find myself having to delete patterns to create new ones. please dont tell me to just delete them because thats not the help im looking for :wink:

heres the load:

i want a machine that i can load samples, add my own music via midi, edit what ive recorded, and layer more(many many tracks) music without reaching limitations per song. also id like alot of storage room (more than like 16 songs).

sorry if the terminology for the respective machines is off or confuzed but i have alot going on in my mind.

ive been looking into the mpc 1000 but i dont wanna drop $500 on something that ill run into a wall with in 6 months of experienced use (after getting used to it).
i also looked into the other mpc's but i heard they are all generally the same. i need alot of sample time.
i also quickly looked at the roland mv8000. it sounds very nice when being described but it IRKS me that i cant go try out every machine and just decide that way. i have to go based on reviews and specs and other peoples opinions and watever, most of which probably do not have the same needs or wants in their production equiptment.

id like the machine to be able to toggle quantize (but that isnt a must i guess. idk. i imagine that it would greatly help in the humanizing of tracks, but i dont have that luxury on the esx1 and ive done just fine for 5 years.

basically in a nutshell, theres alot of music in my head that i want to get out. i dont want to be limited as the music in my head is not. effects are good. more effects are better since pretty much everything i do is from scratch and its hard to find that exact sound im looking for.
i make my own samples from anything and everything. (sometimes i even bang on the wall or stomp on the floor a hundred times attemting to recreate the sound my ear hears).(one of my clicks was actually a pen i threw against the wall; ironically the sample i ended up using was the one that broke the pen :D lol)

anyway a ton of words later, u kno my story, please help

J
By jtbez06 Tue Mar 09, 2010 6:41 am
Think of it like this:

i want a machine where if i had a 25 piece orchestra, i could have each instrument on a different track, time changes, pitch shifts, tempo changes, fills, etc. and not have to worry about being limited by my machinery.

only im doing everything by myself.

ill put the time in, but i need a machine who can hold on for the long run

almost forgot~~ when im playing something on my keyboard into the esx1 via midi i can only play one key at a time (since it doesnt allow more than that) so im very limited with what i can even play. the machine has to be able to accept ALL notes that im playing and not just 1 at a time.

any suggestions?

thanks again

J

ps. the esx1 is great but i cant play much live & record it. it only has 2 playable keyboard parts and 9 constant drum parts where every sample note is the same before effects and 1 slice part per pattern (not including stretch which i chose not to use
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By mr_debauch Tue Mar 09, 2010 7:50 am
definitely the mv8000. the fx are good, the ram is higher than all the mpcs except for the 4000... the price is cheap, and it does almost everything from start to finish depending on what type of product you are trying to make... it has easy usb/computer connection to grab files from the computer, comes with a phono preamp.. and you can connect a monitor and mouse if you feel like it although using all the onboard stuff works fine too.

the workflow is different from the mpc, but if options are what you need the MV will give you that.

I forget the track limit on the mv, but it is pretty high (maybe 100 or so if not more)
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By mr_debauch Wed Mar 10, 2010 5:10 pm
revtor wrote:I mentioned this in another thread, but it fits here for sure..... I got a flyer last week in the mail from GC,, MV's and MPC2500's being blown out for $900 or so. DAYUM!!!!!!


~Steve



yeah but mv8000's are half that price and 98% as good as the 8800. they are pretty much the same thing.
By jtbez06 Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:01 pm
[size=150]Thanks for the replys guys.

would it be worth it to start out with say an mpc 1000 and save up for an 8000 or 8800.

one of you said you could get an mv for 800 and another one said half that...

where can i get an mv for $400 - $450

thanks again people


God bless & keep making music
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By mr_debauch Thu Mar 11, 2010 4:59 am
jtbez06 wrote:[size=150]Thanks for the replys guys.

would it be worth it to start out with say an mpc 1000 and save up for an 8000 or 8800.

one of you said you could get an mv for 800 and another one said half that...

where can i get an mv for $400 - $450

thanks again people


God bless & keep making music



I payed 400 for my mv8000 a while back on ebay.. like last year or something at least. You can also get the 1000 for that price... the rest is up to you to research. we dont know what kind of workflow you are looking for... however it sounds like you could use the exra capacity of ram and tracks... you got only a few options in that respect.

the mv8800 is what? a grand? the mv 8000 is more like 400-450. the two machines are almost the exact same thing except that the onboard screen on the 8800 is in color and also it has a couple of small features they added which is a needle in a haystack almost when you look at what features both models share. In fact almost all tutorial videos etc for the machines are the same for both models (they apply to both because everything is layed out the same even)