somebody with 60/60II/3000/2000/2KXL. BREAK IT DOWN

Is the 3000 so popular because last roger linn model & 16 bit sampling or what is it?


going by e-bay prices, 3000 seems yo be most popular mpc on resale market

anybody have a sound sampled into each machine raw to do a/b compare the coloration?

or is it a "in the head" preference

anybody have all of em/





mpc 60/60II 12 bit sampling so gritty lo fi etc etc & 1988- 1991


then the mpc 3000 still roger linn now 16 bit sampling 1994



mpc 2000 no roger linn & 16 bit sampling 1997-2000


mpc 2000 xl no roger linn 16 bit sampling 2000-2004

mpc 4000 24 bit sampling 512 ram

mpc 1000 16 bit sampling usb connection 2004 to present

mpc 2500,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

mpc 500=============
mpc 5000-------------------------------



What is it that makes the 3000 so popular/exspensive for age?

Well I would say in many cases Dr Dre is responsible.
And Dilla of course


peace

I think it also has to do with the fact it's a Roger Linn.
The 60 was also designed by Linn, but it's just a little bit more outdated and not yet completed as a perfect mpc. For the 3000 they just took the 60, perfectionized it and updated the specs. And non heavy hiphop fans probably want that stereo 16 bit sampling.

I think 3000 is more expensive cause combine a warm and unique sound but it's "quite modern",16MB ram provides more sampling time than mpc60,a built in scsi port allows to connect a card reader and it can be upgraded with Valixy o.s

MPC 60 is really punchy n raw but with maxed ram has 20sec of sampling time and you can't create more complex sequences without another sampler in midi synch,scsi board cost 300$ and often OS built in is the old 2.02 and you must pay another 195$ for OS 3.10 upgrade that is basically same MPC3000 OS.

I've owned both,love them both but if I take a choice i'll retake 3000.

peterpiper wrote:Well I would say in many cases Dr Dre is responsible.
And Dilla of course


peace

+1

There's a medical condition known as gearlust... it's also why Roland TB-303s and TR-909s still sell for a premium too.

Although a large quantity of music has been made using 2000s and 2000XLs, the issue with the LCD longetevity keeps prices for those on the used market low.

MPCHunter wrote:There's a medical condition known as gearlust... it's also why Roland TB-303s and TR-909s still sell for a premium too.

Very true, sometimes I get exhausted when I hear modern tracks that have vintage machine sounds.

Reason People Mainly Love the 3000 is because of the sound. Best sounding 16-bit MPC ever made. It colors whatever you sample into it, and fattens it up a bit. Very Warm. It also has the dopest filter of any MPC. This along side it having an awseome sequencer, 4 MIDI outs, Super durable build, and new Mansell Labs OS, makes it unstoppable.

Unfortuntly for NewAkai, newer MPC's really havn't improved much over 15-20 years feature wise, and has decreased in sound and build quality. Kinda sad if you think about it really.

SV1200 wrote:Unfortuntly for NewAkai, newer MPC's really havn't improved much over 15-20 years feature wise, and has decreased in sound and build quality. Kinda sad if you think about it really.

Well said.

agreed, there's something about the sound of the 3k, the a/d and d/a converters are great.

the new mpc line I just dont like the way it sounds.

I was thinking about this earlier, the mpc60/3k you can basically sample wahtever you want and it'll sound good, with the later models you really have to be selective with your samples cuz they dont often turn out right.


beyond for that, the OS on 60 and 3k is amazing. It's just extremely intuitive, something the later MPCs forgot about.

roger linn is smart, he keeps it simple. which is something I really appreciate. the new machines have 10000x extra functions half of them dont work right, and half of them aren't that useful.

what more do you really need than sample start/end attack/decay a LPF and tuning? sure LFOs and multimode filters are great...but when they're not top notch what's the point?

only thing I wish the 3k had was track muting via pad.

no pad mute???shhhheeeeeet!!!

3001 wrote:agreed, there's something about the sound of the 3k, the a/d and d/a converters are great.

the new mpc line I just dont like the way it sounds.

I was thinking about this earlier, the mpc60/3k you can basically sample wahtever you want and it'll sound good, with the later models you really have to be selective with your samples cuz they dont often turn out right.


beyond for that, the OS on 60 and 3k is amazing. It's just extremely intuitive, something the later MPCs forgot about.

I agree, the sounds do tend to be warmer when we sample on my friends MPC 60. I also hear about how nice the MPC 4000's 24bit converter is, but I have to assume the low bit sound associated with hip hop is lost in such a clean conversion

3001 wrote:roger linn is smart, he keeps it simple. which is something I really appreciate. the new machines have 10000x extra functions half of them dont work right, and half of them aren't that useful.

what more do you really need than sample start/end attack/decay a LPF and tuning? sure LFOs and multimode filters are great...but when they're not top notch what's the point?

only thing I wish the 3k had was track muting via pad.

I've also been watching Linn's products, I'm still waiting for his newest build to surface. I've also wanted to try the MV8800 and some open labs gear.

3001 wrote:I was thinking about this earlier, the mpc60/3k you can basically sample wahtever you want and it'll sound good, with the later models you really have to be selective with your samples cuz they dont often turn out right.

Umm,, okay bro

sold my 2kxl and picked up a 60ii thats maxed except scusi. its slow at times but the workflow is quick. no lame sub menus or shit the layout is what it is. so in high times its mad fun to use. sample time isnt realy an issue 45 it and pitch up if ur table lets u and ur set. if ur still cramped for sample time just compress it(inside the machine that it). and the sound is what it is. 12 bit boom bap. peace

I understand the 12 bit sampling and the sound as My first ever sampler was a 12 bit gemini ds1224

but wandering if anybody has sampled the same exact sample be it a drum loop or something into each machine

no effects or further tweaking.


just to hear how the a/d converters of each machine actually affects the sound.


does this kind of test exist here or any links to other places.


and the 3000 being 16 bit, does it have very different actual sound from a 2000 16-bit?

only test iv seen was on gearslutz between a 60 and 2500 i think. the sound from 3000 to 2000xl. i doubt its going to be major but id put money that the 3k adds a better sounding "character" to the sample then the 2000xl. better quality components.