Showtime!

What up MPC fam,
I think our crew is finally ready to start doing shows. My question is this. What is the best way to approach the show. We will be using tracked or "show cd's". But I want to keep it like a live show. Meaning I don't want to just put on the cd like its a cd listening party! I want some of the songs to bleed together, while their are pauses between the other songs to give him time to talk to the crowd. Im not a dj. I have never spun before, (pls dont laugh). So I need some other idea besides putting the tracks on wax. I hope this is clear enough for yall. If not Im sure you will ask for more details. NE ways get back at me when ya get a min. Thanks in advandce. Gone

find someone with a final scratch and put your tracks on mp3's and spinn them that way you will still need to have a dj or learn to spinn it not bad, your presentation on stage will come out tighter (not saying that it's bad now ) but the crowd will be more in to it with a dj, i think. the dj just adds one more element to the stage show, knowhatimean.

or just learn to program your beats live, try recording some of your beats to an HD recorder and play that, then play your mpc after the beats on the HD are over or mix them back and forth like:
hd...mpc...hd...mpc
or

mpc....mpc...hd...mpc...hd...hd...mpc

Appreciate that info dj e.d.e I feel ya on the dj, its almost a must have. Otherwise the show will be boring. I guess Im gonna have to teach myself the art. I was thinkin about using the mpc, but I don't thinkits possible for me because if the different programs I use. Although that would be tight. I have a digi 002 and a G5, Is there a way to do anything with this setup. I know it would be a hassle to haul the G5 to shows but. . .

lookinto final scratch by staton this is the way to go,if you use a comp. but thenyou need to have turntables anyways what it does it lets you play your file on the turn table from your hard drive. check out staton magnetics web site.

Much love kid. Appreciate the help

JBeats wrote:What up MPC fam,
I think our crew is finally ready to start doing shows. My question is this. What is the best way to approach the show. We will be using tracked or "show cd's". But I want to keep it like a live show. Meaning I don't want to just put on the cd like its a cd listening party! I want some of the songs to bleed together, while their are pauses between the other songs to give him time to talk to the crowd. Im not a dj. I have never spun before, (pls dont laugh). So I need some other idea besides putting the tracks on wax. I hope this is clear enough for yall. If not Im sure you will ask for more details. NE ways get back at me when ya get a min. Thanks in advandce. Gone

ive done this before i.e. put space in between the tracks on the cd...all you gotta do is make one big long track....and then put space in between. start off like that, but yeah id look into the final scratch, or at least getting a cd turntable so you can cue it while on stage! they are cheap nowadays. peace.

Naw, just kidding, it has it's uses, but a lotta bugs on a live gig.

I've used Final Scratch for some of my crew's shows and it takes a while to hook into the house system and you may come across a lot of feedback/groundloop issues with the house system. I would suggest you invest in CD Turntable(s). I'm a vinyl purist, but you can't beat these on the road. I rock my shows with my Vestax PDX2000 tt's cuttin' vinyl, with my Numark CDX CD turntables for the show disk. Easy setup, bro. You trying to get in, wreck shop, and jet up outta there, not hooking up cords, rebooting, regrounding, etc. I've used the two and I prefer the CD turntable over Final Scratch. You may like it, but I suggest against it, from personal experience.

Yo the kid definately appreciates all the feedback on this topic. Thanks!!!!!!

Yea when we did a show in hawaii a while back with the LIVing Legends we asked them why they couldnt use final scratch cause...

Murs jumped around too much... Any little skip messes up the signal...
It doesnt have error correction so you have to have a full signal...

Basically If you are in a dj booth its cool but on stage its hard....

YOu wanna do a live show use the 360 degrees Instant Replay System...

Everyuone uses it now...
Its like an akai but with a roland sequencer built in...
So you can store every track you want and bust it out when you want...
And have like the drums on the pads and certain samples you trigger live or you can mix any tracks together..

Etc..
Thats the way to go but big budget heftty

Freedom wrote:Yea when we did a show in hawaii a while back with the LIVing Legends we asked them why they couldnt use final scratch cause...

Murs jumped around too much... Any little skip messes up the signal...
It doesnt have error correction so you have to have a full signal...

Basically If you are in a dj booth its cool but on stage its hard....

YOu wanna do a live show use the 360 degrees Instant Replay System...

Everyuone uses it now...
Its like an akai but with a roland sequencer built in...
So you can store every track you want and bust it out when you want...
And have like the drums on the pads and certain samples you trigger live or you can mix any tracks together..

Etc..
Thats the way to go but big budget heftty

ive seen that on stage...always tryin to figure out what the **** it was!

If you don't know how to spin records, and you need a solid skipfree solution to mix tracks, i'd consider Traktor.
http://www.nativeinstruments.de/index.php?traktor_us
A friend of mine uses it, and it's pretty good. I'm not saying it's better than a real dj, but it could work for a live show.

It also saves you some money: Final scratch is an expensive solution if you don't already have turntables and a mixer.

IF you can get all your stuff on to vinyl and possibly borrow a couple turntables for a week or two, you could get down the technique. A lot of DJs like to make it sound like it's hard to mix records, but trust me; a friend that can spin could show you how to do it pretty decently within an afternoon, then you just practice for a couple weeks. I swear I could teach someone how to spin a house or progressive trance set in a couple of days (though they'd still need to practice their technique for a bit), and that's a LOT harder than mixing hip-hop. I can mix a hip-hop set blind with one arm, but a lot of the dance mixes require a lot of filter and/or EQ manipulation and careful level setting throughout the entire set to sound right.....hip-hop sets require less of this. If you factor in scratching an stuff, though, that's a whole different can of worms....


MANiK

cyrus wrote:

Freedom wrote:Yea when we did a show in hawaii a while back with the LIVing Legends we asked them why they couldnt use final scratch cause...

Murs jumped around too much... Any little skip messes up the signal...
It doesnt have error correction so you have to have a full signal...

Basically If you are in a dj booth its cool but on stage its hard....

YOu wanna do a live show use the 360 degrees Instant Replay System...

Everyuone uses it now...
Its like an akai but with a roland sequencer built in...
So you can store every track you want and bust it out when you want...
And have like the drums on the pads and certain samples you trigger live or you can mix any tracks together..

Etc..
Thats the way to go but big budget heftty

ive seen that on stage...always tryin to figure out what the **** it was!

The Beatnuts are usin that now too.

hip-Hop crwes without DJ's Are WHACK!!!!


Maybe you should go back to the drawing board.
Or consider hiring a dj to do shows.
I would staught heckle a crew with no dj. Hip Hop music is based on DJ's. Blah... i could go on for days.

I'm sorry if I seem harsh. Maybe your crew is not ready for shows until you have a way to perform the music properly, Not like a bunch of toy boy punk suckers.

About all the crews using the 360 playback system. THEY HAVE THER DJ OPERATE WHILE THE DJ CONTROLS THE SHOW!!!

all wack crews can die in a ditch.

Thanks everyone for the help. Especially Lord Toranaga for the "constructive" critisism. Im not dumb to the fact the shows are based on the dj's. Thats why I asked my question. But I do have to start somewhere ya know. Thanks again everyone.