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By Retrofreak Sat Mar 20, 2010 6:18 pm
Sovereign wrote:
Retrofreak wrote:The 60 has the fatter sound and groove imho.

The 3000 is the better workhorse.


I disagree.

Once you learn how the filter on the 3k really works the 60 can't touch it's sound.
The 60 sounds good but the 3k just bangs.



Thats fine,

I've got both and 60 drum sounds come back smaller/more compressed when inside the 3000.
Also the 3000 grooves a bit straighter and not a loose.

The 3000 is the better workhouse as you can do more with it, but the 60 has the sound I prefer tbh.
By daftmunk Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:42 pm
i agree with the above... after finally getting a hold of a 3000(LE) as a 60(II) owner i can't help but admit i was a bit let down by the sound of the 3K. maybe i built it in my head as being this magical fat sampler but i'm feeling a little underwhelmed by it even compared to my 2000XL. perhaps 16-bit just isn't that much of a mojo bitrate, but then again ASR-10/X has a lot more character i believe. maybe i need to spend more time with the 3K (only been 48h) as someone mentioned earlier here, playing with the filter opens up the sonics a bit. but still the 950 engine of the 60 is just a beast of drums.

workflow wise it's a toss up.. the 3000 feels a lot snappier but i still like the layout of the 60II better (maybe it's just cause i'm used to it). sequencer wise, i definitely also agree that the 60 has a sloppier feel/groove, excellent for that bouncy laid back early 90s vibe. 3000 is more rigid .. i also miss the red rec led lighting up while sampling on the 60 but that's a minor detail..

the 3000 obviously wins in sampling time.. great to have stereo too..

but overall i think the 60 brings a lot more mojo then the 3000, especially in this day & age. the 3000 clean sound and snappy sequencer being closer to DAW standards.. so imo a fully maxed 60 with OS 3.0 is probably a much better value price wise although it's all subjective i guess.. still glad i now own both though :mrgreen:

edit: i knew i should have spent a little more time on the 3K, silly me had the sampling input setting on "low" ... i just tried it on medium/high and got MUCH more satisfying results so scratch what i said about no mojo (still prefer the 60 sound though!)