Maschine...

trust me, there is absolutely nothing like it, catch some of my other vids, when I review sample packs, I usually use maschine and you can see how quick I chop stuff manually..

I don't even mess with the autochop

stumbled up on some legit in depth maschine vidoes...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE6p34_ZGKA&feature=related

yeah...those are the videos from their website.

well I can say I am a long time mpc LOVER and User and Performer but>>>>>>>>>>>
the only time I break out my mpc now is to either track in one of my older beats or for a live show ( i tend to do alot of my beats right off the mpc as it give the crowd more to get into)
.... yep I am honestly in love with maschine... never thought I would end up fully on the software side. especially after countless beat battles in which i smashed all the software heads out.
but I can say maschine is just ... I dunno you just gotta try it its just so much smoother. there are a few features that are lacking that the 1.5 update is gonna finally fix for me (as i have been yelling in the NI forums for some time about timestretching and truncating). just wanted to give and actually mpc heads point of view.... yep I love maschine. very happy with it. can't wait for mpc program import of 1.5!!! thats gonna be nive as long as it supports my mpc 2kxl files

real talk bro lol... you aint lyin at all

MPCs in comparison are way outdated and Akai has failed to keep up. Period. Maschine is the future we've all been waiting for.

I don't understand why is everyone trying to make beats as fast as possible?

It's like people speeding just to be the first person at the stop light.

the Maschine looks cool though

No one's talking about making beats as fast as possible. Maschine does make all the tedious part of the process more efficient and out of the way so that you can spend more time getting creative with your beats.

Deta!L wrote:I don't understand why is everyone trying to make beats as fast as possible?

It's like people speeding just to be the first person at the stop light.

the Maschine looks cool though

looks like you stay in my area yo!

anyway, it's not about making beats fast...it's about having a quick workflow so you can get your ideas out.

I usually always come back to tracks and perfect them more, but being able to get the initial idea laid down, samples chopped, etc, in a quick and fluid way is dope for the workflow.

no point in taking years to chop a sample, or wait for kits to load, or any of that stuff that doesn't add to the music making
process.

also, everyone doesn't have all day to spend making music, they need to be efficient with the time they have, so being able to lay complete ideas down in a smooth workflow is important....

so personally when I say quick, i'm speaking about how I am able to complete various tasks, not make a complete finished track that I will never touch again...

even with the mpc, I always come back to stuff a few days later....but the initial foundation takes way longer on the mp than it does with maschine...for folks with limited time to spend on music, that's important

I used mpcs (i have a 4000) for 10 eyars. I buyed a NI Maschine... its **** cool. U can do beats exactly like an mpc without look or touch your laptop.
The best: u dont have a lot of boring procedures that u have on the mpc.
I have doubts about the sound. And the sync of the MPC is the best.

But, to play live, making "dubs" of your beats Maschine is excelent. The sound is great, the efx are amazing to play live.
The only thing that i dont liked: u need the **** Ableton live to open various programs toghether, if you want to make a live act. SHIT!

You can open your MPC kits in Maschine, And i dont saw anything about latency.

Works good.
The real problem to me, is use the Ableton live to work live, to administrate diferent projects.
The rest is amazing...

I picked up my mpc1000 several months ago after being without my 2000xl for over a year. I seriously looked into maschine seeing as i use software primarily. but when it came down to it.i would've had to seriously upgrade my computer, and operating system then drop the 6 bills for maschine. The 1000 was a more economical choice. but Native intruments will remain on my radar. This is till a cool piece.

don't count akai out. You never know what they are working NOW that'll be launched in the next 6-24 months.........product development takes a long long time..........

Why does one have to be better than the other?

People put too much of their ego into these discussions.

I bought maschine and to tell you the truth it didn't do what I needed it to do. However the 1.5 beta updates has implemented a few things that I wished it had.

Use both, use neither, use either. Whatever you are comfortable with.

Once they update it I am going to give it another go but it won't make me make better beats. That is up to me alone.

sensei wrote:Why does one have to be better than the other?

People put too much of their ego into these discussions.

I bought maschine and to tell you the truth it didn't do what I needed it to do. However the 1.5 beta updates has implemented a few things that I wished it had.

Use both, use neither, use either. Whatever you are comfortable with.

Once they update it I am going to give it another go but it won't make me make better beats. That is up to me alone.

good words right there...

True. What's better is relative to each of our individual needs/preferences. I've been talking up the Maschine here because I think a lot of people would appreciate finding out what Maschine really is and what that means. But it's still being dismissed by many due to misconceptions like viewing it as any just a software which many associate with using a mouse and that it's no different than any other computer and a generic midi controller setup. While the Maschine controller itself is a just a usb midi controller (a very good one in comparison to most), what is unique about it is that it brings the experience that was previously only found in standalone hardware in terms of dedicated hardware and integrated software that combine to form a very tactile, efficient, and instrument-like workflow. Many Maschine users find it really cool that you don't even have to look at the computer screen while you use it. Like I've said before I've owned many MPCs and I think they're classic machines and probably would have kept them if I could afford to and had the room for them. Lucky for me, Maschine was almost exactly what I was waiting for.

Anyway, Maschine means heavy competition for Akai. And that is a GOOD THING for those of you who still use or plan to buy MPCs. Akai could learn a few lessons from NI about product support and development, and actually listening to your userbase. I don't care what any of you use to make music. I'm offering my opinion that for my needs and of many others, Maschine represents a welcomed step in the evolution of classic hardware like MPCs and electribes that is not compromised with the limitations of standalone hardware. The nature of responses to my suggestion of Maschine as a replacement for MPC (as some people can't afford to have both. But if you want to use both or neither, I don't care.) indicate that some people's egos are too closely tied to what they chose to invest time and money into for music making. Take a few deep breaths, and try to keep an open mind about these things. There's no need to feel insecure or take things personal about any of this.

another gay MASHINE thread....
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