Drum Kit setups

When do you guys layer your drums in the MPC; Before,during, or after you chopped up a sample?
And how do you set up you kits. Do you have all kicks in one program, all snares on one program, etc. Or
do you have a whole Drum kit setup on one program?

Just want to get an idea of a easy and good setup?

Lullabye wrote:When do you guys layer your drums in the MPC; Before,during, or after you chopped up a sample?
And how do you set up you kits. Do you have all kicks in one program, all snares on one program, etc. Or
do you have a whole Drum kit setup on one program?

Just want to get an idea of a easy and good setup?

i am not a pro .. just an MPC1000 beginner JJOS 4.99L and demoing JJOS 2XL at the moment...

and also would like to hear other ppl drum kits creation worklfow

i am making drum kits as one program, closed HI-HATt mutes the Open Hi-Hat.
Layered Kick and snare.
Single layer rimshot , congas and finger snaps , symbals.

But still have trouble layering Kicks and Snares using a bit of LFO's n stuff
and often end up hearing
one sample more than the others rather than blend them together.. no matter how much i play with the sample volume and velocity...
maybe its just me?
How do you guys layer your drums ( velocity, volume , LFO settings)?

On layering, I use Simult mode and mess with the Attack, Decay, Volume, and sometimes velocity of each sample. Found on the JJ OS1 version and up!

definitely after chopping up a sample..

pick drums after sample its not worth the time if you end up switching up the drums ultimately because the original drums didn't fit with the sample

unless your just using 808s then F#ck it

Depends on how you're working and what you are chopping... etc.

If you're working with something you've sampled from a song and plan on flipping... well first you usually want to EQ your sample if you want to minimize lows/highs... then chop.

From there, you'd start looking at what drums/bass/fx/vocals fits in.

Typically if I'm starting on something from scratch though...

Find a Kick I want to work with... assign to A1. Find a snare I want to work with and assign to A2/A3. I usually put hats/rims on A5-A8. I almost always use A9-A12 for Bass/FX and A13-16 gets the honor of Leads/One Shots/Pads. Then if I start finding alternate sounds I want to play with I might assign a second Kick to B1/C1/D1 if they are open. If I start going through loops I want to flip I'll generally chop them and either make a new program or assign the samples through Bank C/D if I just want a single program.

Again though, it all depends on what you're doing. I find being consistent as possible and having a process for doing things is far more important than how you actually do it. When doing things this way I can pretty quickly move from one project to another and be pretty confident I can find the pads with the samples I want fast enough and it isn't a mess to work through.

For me at least, a little organization and consistency can go a long way.

To NearTao:
So you dont create just Drum Kit programms to quickly reload/reuse in multiple songs/tracks but rather create one program for the whole bunch of samples used in à track/song ?