searching for that perfect bass sound....

Ben.H wrote:its the bass from the original chops with a sine wave bass layered in to fatten it up, probably some eq as well.
Learn to hear the difference between bass guitar, sine waves, square wave, saw tooth and all the rest it will serve you well!

learning your sound palette is something every good producer MUST do

yeah... the sinewave bass is eqed listen to it... that isn't straight sine wave man

wut? forgive a possibly dumb question, but if you EQ/filter a sine wave you get the same sine wave with a different amplitude. a sine wave has no harmonics, nothing to give it a particular timbre, it's just a pure tone, so EQ does ... what?

Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:wut? forgive a possibly dumb question, but if you EQ/filter a sine wave you get the same sine wave with a different amplitude. a sine wave has no harmonics, nothing to give it a particular timbre, it's just a pure tone, so EQ does ... what?

look at a sine wave in a parametric EQ. you will notice that it is not just one single frequency (for example, if you have a note centered around 80hz... it wont only be 80 hz and nothing at 75 or 85... )

try it out and you will see.

yeah, but i think that the 'spread' you see over frequencies, is just because of the analysers not being perfect..
if youd EQ a pure sine wave, the different pitches would have different amplitudes if theyd be played equally loud, so you could also work with velocity if thats possible
now.. sometimes if you play a sine wave, that is not what youll hear (distortions in the signal path, wanted or not) so you have to take that into account...

mr_debauch wrote:look at a sine wave in a parametric EQ. you will notice that it is not just one single frequency (for example, if you have a note centered around 80hz... it wont only be 80 hz and nothing at 75 or 85... )

try it out and you will see.

A sine wave is a single frequency. That's just a fact.

Analysers show a spread of frequencies due to spectral leakage, which I guess equalisers are affected by too, so it's possible for them to boost a part of the signal that wasn't there. I hadn't thought of that.

But a sine wave is still a single frequency, by definition.

Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:look at a sine wave in a parametric EQ. you will notice that it is not just one single frequency (for example, if you have a note centered around 80hz... it wont only be 80 hz and nothing at 75 or 85... )

try it out and you will see.

A sine wave is a single frequency. That's just a fact.

Analysers show a spread of frequencies due to spectral leakage, which I guess equalisers are affected by too, so it's possible for them to boost a part of the signal that wasn't there. I hadn't thought of that.

But a sine wave is still a single frequency, by definition.

yeah you have a very good point... but I realised... the sine wave bass we were talking about isn't actually a real sine wave. We are talking about a bass sound typically called a sine wave bass... I know what the dudes meant though... I sometimes use it too.

aha, gotcha - that's what I was missing for the thread to make sense to me
thanks

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Thre's even a cheaper way: just buy an s950 and use the test tone in it. Believe it or not, it's the thickest sub bass out there, straight out of the box without any need for EQing.

just get a motif es rack... u can find one for like $300 somewhere... that box has the best bass sounds ever!! Get the XS if you can afford it but the ES still got some REAL dope stuff... U can also find great bass sounds on any record... just need to low pass filter the hell outta it and make it loud...

my new technique i love is i use ableton and after i track my beat in and dont even mess with bass before tracking in
i sync everything thing up then pull out the usb midi keyboard and open up operator
4 oscillators
editing for each one
done done and done