Considering an MPC

mr_debauch wrote:

Doglamp wrote:"yeah but if you got a crap sound card... you got a crap sound card. often the result is clicking or latency..."

Almost all dedicated sound cards don't have those problems. The only way you can experience that is if you have a PC without ASIO drivers for your card.

To add to this, the OP most likely has a Mac because he has used Logic. Even his onboard sound card will have low latency.

Doglamp wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

Doglamp wrote:"yeah but if you got a crap sound card... you got a crap sound card. often the result is clicking or latency..."

Almost all dedicated sound cards don't have those problems. The only way you can experience that is if you have a PC without ASIO drivers for your card.

To add to this, the OP most likely has a Mac because he has used Logic. Even his onboard sound card will have low latency.

ahh very true.. I forgot about that factor.

Whoa-this has gotten a little out of hand haha.

Right, I do have a MacBook Pro, and I don't even know how to go about upgrading the soundcard, or anything about them for that matter.

I agree that some of the reasons for interest in an MPC that I supplied may seem like bs, but things like that are mostly subjective too.

I will consider a Maschine. I just think it is going to be really complicated, at least at first. I mean, it's not like any of these things (MPC included) just come loaded with all of your kits and samples, ready to go.

Maybe I am just fooling myself into thinking the MPC is a cool deal that would work for me. Based on the videos I have seen, the music I have heard made on them, the reputation they have, and the love a lot of people have for them, I would say there is at least some chance of me liking it.

But again, who knows, and I may just be fooling myself.

I've tried making beats on the computer with software. I'm the same when it comes to this... i don't feel it. I bought an MPC exactly because of this. Get an MPC, it's what you're looking for!

@emptysea

what do i tell the folks at NI so that you can get commission for selling me a maschine..

Disco.Infiltrator wrote:Whoa-this has gotten a little out of hand haha.

Right, I do have a MacBook Pro, and I don't even know how to go about upgrading the soundcard, or anything about them for that matter.

I agree that some of the reasons for interest in an MPC that I supplied may seem like bs, but things like that are mostly subjective too.

I will consider a Maschine. I just think it is going to be really complicated, at least at first. I mean, it's not like any of these things (MPC included) just come loaded with all of your kits and samples, ready to go.

Maybe I am just fooling myself into thinking the MPC is a cool deal that would work for me. Based on the videos I have seen, the music I have heard made on them, the reputation they have, and the love a lot of people have for them, I would say there is at least some chance of me liking it.

But again, who knows, and I may just be fooling myself.

youre having trouble understanding how to plug in midi controllers.. im thinking you might have trouble installing jjos on your 1k with a mac..

I just do better with hardware, and you may be the same. I always have problems with computers to the point that I think I must be retarded. Installing JJ os is a breeze. Even for someone like myself. You also may want to look into a keyboard workstation. Just find what works for you.

jibber wrote:I've tried making beats on the computer with software. I'm the same when it comes to this... i don't feel it. I bought an MPC exactly because of this. Get an MPC, it's what you're looking for!

Have you tried Maschine though? It does not feel like using a software (compared to software-only programs like Logic/Cubase) because of the dedicated hardware controller which works like a MPC but without the limitations of standalone hardware. You don't need to be using a mouse or even look at the computer screen while making beats with Maschine. It works and feels more like using standalone hardware like MPC to the user compared to using a software with a mouse and a generic non-dedicated midi controller.

you're repeating yourself

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=129116&p=1192726&hilit=+standalone+dedicated+limitations#p1192726

viewtopic.php?f=18&t=129116&p=1193360&hilit=+standalone+dedicated+limitations#p1193360

almost word-for-word

Disco.Infiltrator wrote:Stuff.

"Right, I do have a MacBook Pro, and I don't even know how to go about upgrading the soundcard, or anything about them for that matter."

It's easy, there are audio interfaces you can connect to your laptop via USB or firewire. Here's a diagram that explains the purpose of the interface (it's in the center):



And get your self-esteem up! Live / Logic should be easy as, if not easier, than the MPC to use. Keep trying to learn it.

And that's not true that they're hard to learn, right? They seem pretty intuitive. Like a multi-track recording device in some ways.

Still no one has spoken to their live "jamming" capabilities though.

And I'm still looking at the Maschine, world's most determined salesman.

Disco.Infiltrator wrote:And that's not true that they're hard to learn, right? They seem pretty intuitive. Like a multi-track recording device in some ways.

Still no one has spoken to their live "jamming" capabilities though.

And I'm still looking at the Maschine, world's most determined salesman.

live jamming with an mpc? well it is pretty good for that if that is indeed your question.

you can set up drum sounds or loops, samples or sample loops... what ever you want onto the pads and hit them in live.. like for example you could even tap in a drum beat live as if the pads are a sort of drum kit and every few bars you tap your melody sample in there...

or you could pre-make an entire song with drums, melody and all that.... with the different variations and mute and un-mute the parts in order while it's playing.

for example you got your kick and snare playing and after a while you unmute your melody, then you unmute your hihats and bassline.. etc. then you could mute your melody and at the same time unmute your chorus melody.

maybe that will strike up an idea or two... though you would need to iron out your own exact song setup and what you are going to do.

Disco.Infiltrator wrote:And that's not true that they're hard to learn, right? They seem pretty intuitive. Like a multi-track recording device in some ways. Still no one has spoken to their live "jamming" capabilities though.

Yea, you can easily use it as a multi-track recorder to jam with, switching between the tracks using mute/unmute as Mr Debauch mentions.

-- peer

Yeah, I'm thinking of hip-hop stuff like that, and also making electro disco tracks by laying down a beat and then looping synth over the top of it.

I think an R3, MPC and turntable sounds like a solid setup. But then you have to get monitors... haha. Dangerous road.

monitors are always a good buy... no matter what type of gear you go with...... you will for sure need them.