Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By Destinite Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:29 pm
I know this is going to sound dumb, but I'd always been wrapped up in recording a beat that I didn't really consider the hookups or stuff like that - as long as I got the sound, I didn't care. However, knowing that my remaining sample time doubles when I switch from stereo to mono, I figure it's worth asking. If I'm sampling from my Triton and whatever patch I'm using doesn't seem to pan/etc., should I even bother sampling it in stereo? What's the proper hookup if I'm to sample it in mono - I've read that L by default is mono, so do I only need to hook up one plug from the Triton to the MPC, then? How about when sampling from a record?

I'm just sitting here thinking I've been wasting precious sample time all along...
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By Lampdog Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:40 pm
Sample in stereo if you need it.

Sample in mono if you need it.

You don't have to choose, use both.

Simple.

You have the gear to try out all that what your asking, so go do that.
By Destinite Tue Apr 13, 2010 3:53 pm
I get what you're saying, but I'm not on your level of knowledge regarding mono vs. stereo and therefore I don't know if there is some generally accepted rule. Keep in mind this is coming from someone who when he first got his MPC, was sampling from his mp3 player into the mic in because he didn't know Y-cables existed. Worked for me, but I get the feeling it wasn't the right way to do it. THIS is why I'm asking this. I could go home and do it like I've always been doing it but it might not be the right way. I've read some people say that you record a piano in stereo, and I don't get why, since there are no panned effects on a piano.

You say "simple", but you also say "when you need it", and to someone not on your level, that's not simple to determine.
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By dabmeister Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:16 pm
Though it really isn't something you have to put a lot of emphasis on these days, stereo recording is basically the norm with the exception of mono when it's being called for.

As you continue to educate yourself in recording principles, you'll learn of what sound sources get either mono or stereo.

You can have mono components situated at varying points within the stereo field (along with the stereo recorded sounds) that helps give the mix an identity so to speak.
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By Lampdog Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:16 pm
Your thinking too hard on this. And your making it harder than it really is. It's a level thing
and believe me I don't even put myself on a high level at all.

Your over thinking this. You have the gear and you can try this sampling anyway you want, you just gotta experiment.
that's how you get better and understand stuff, by experimenting. Sample a piano in mono and then do it in stereo and hear the difference. You can do this however you want. Experiment, practice and experiment some more. Are you sure there is no panning info in a piano sample? Sample in mono and then sample in stereo to hear with your own ears. Whatever sounds good to you, use it. Stop worrying about what other people say. If it works for you then do it.

Panning info is not always"in your face", it can be very subtle sometimes, you gotta listen, experiment and listen and keep what sounds good to you.

But a mic in is for mic, lmao.
By Destinite Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:26 pm
Thanks, guys.

Lamp, I wasn't insinuating you were putting yourself on a high level, I was just saying you guys know more than I do and I see you on a higher level than me regarding this.

But you're right, I'm probably overthinking. I just need to do what I think works best for me and not worry what others say. Like the mic in thing - it just always worked for me, I just figured "well, sound comes in here, I get my sample through it, so whatever", and whoever heard my stuff never said "Hey, did you record that through a mic in because it sounds like it" - so I never thought twice about it because it worked, you dig what I'm saying? It worked, but it wasn't really the right way. That's where I'm coming from.
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By Lampdog Tue Apr 13, 2010 4:56 pm
Mic in and line in have different voltages and it could make a huge difference in sound quality
and may damage your mic in. That's why we said, use a mic for mic in, lol.

That happens alot when people wanna get up and running and make beats, they tend to learn the hard way about
things cause alot of stuff is missed and not known, people just wanna get in there and make beats and then start to have
huge problems.

A little research can go a long way. A lot of research can steer you away from potential BIG headaches down the road.
And experimenting/practicing is never-ending.
By rdavila Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:32 pm
Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:there's some discussion of stereo vs mono at http://www.samplecraze.com/tutorial.php ... torials-2/

most of the tutorials on that site are very clearly written and useful


Good point Paster-of-Muppets,

I was gonna check my references when I get home, but I know they put out some good stuff.
Here's another source you might wanna check out who have some good reads.

http://www.mpc-samples.com/section.php/ ... tutorials/

Basically, read read and read some mo!

As far as the mic thing, i remember hearing somewhere that someone mic'd the feedback or audio from a turntable needle for drums or whatever to get 'that' sound. Whatever they thought was different about it or unique they decided to try it. Like Lamp is saying, you just gotta try ish and is usually how people stumble across or create innovation.

Peace
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By Lampdog Tue Apr 13, 2010 5:43 pm
rdavila wrote:you just gotta try ish and is usually how people stumble across or create innovation.