Please, if anyone has a MPC synchronized with a synth, help!

Turn the slave OFF! This may be your problem right there. It thinks you are trying to sync sequences when you are just tryint to sequence everything from one unit. Also, there is no need to turn local control off. Keep it on. Your very close now. I can feel it. Sorry it took me a while to respond, I've had to work. As a matter of fact, I have to go to work right now, but I will check your response when I get home. You want all sync options off! The good news is your MPC is getting the MIDI info, so were halfway there. Try to turn this off and tell me what happens. If this does not work, you should really REBOOT as I've told you how to do in previous posts. Once you do this, do not reset any of your settings. I think the problem here is your over thinking things. Try turning the slave setting to off. If it doesn't work, reboot and try to sequence AS IS. Then let me know what happens. I'll check tonight. (@ 9 hours from now) Good luck. Were getting close now...

Wudsiba,
hi there amigo! I´m the clumsiest MIDI person in the planet!!! Sorry for being a pain with this bs!
There is no way to turn the slave off in Fantom. You can only choose master. I put master in sync mode and mmc mode. THE REST IS OFF! Local On in fantom. MPC receives all, soft though as track, same. I tried MPC with sync on a master, with sync out on, with sync in on...Dios mio!! Illl reboot if necessary even though I loose the mpc OS2 that I paid for.

just in case, I know this is ridiculous, but here I go again with the CURRENT SET UP:

Fantom MIDI tab:

Device ID:17
Performance Control Channel: 1
Pad Patch Rx/Tx Channel ( es que el fantom lleva tb pads pero no los uso) :10

Fantom TRANSMIT tab:

transmit program change: oFF
transmit bank select: oFF
transmit active sensing: oFF
transmit edit data: off
soft through: off


Fantom RECEIVE tab:

Remote keyboard switch: oFF
Receive program change: off
Receive bank select: off
Receive exclusive: oFF
Receive GM System On: oFF
Receive GM System On: oFF
Receive GS Reset: oFF


Fantom SOUND tab:

Local switch: ON

Fantom SYNC TEMPO tab:

Sync Mode: Slave-Midi (If I put it master, same problem)
Sync Output: off
Tempo Override: off
Arp/Rhytm Sync Switch: off

Fantom MTC/MMC tab:

MMC MODE: slave ( if I put it maste, same problem)
MMC Output: off
MTC Sync Output: off
Frame Rate: 25
MTC Offset Time Hour: 0
´´ ´´ ´´ Minute: 0
¨¨ ¨¨ ¨¨ ¨¨ Second: 0
MTC Time Frame: 0
MTC Error Level: 0

MPC MIDI tab:

Active track receive channel: all
Sof Thru: as track
Sequence change by program: on
Pad to Internal Sound: on


MPC SYNC tab :

Sync in: off
Sync out: A (MASTER)
Mode : Midi Time Code frame 25 ( he probado como dice Dr No con Midi Clock y nada)
Send MMC : on

MPC MIDI OUT A to Fantom IN
MPC MIDI IN 1 to Fantom OUT
midi 1a pg off MPC
channel 1 fantom Rx ( receive) Performance mode
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I got an idea. Sell your gaye ass Fantom and get an asr-10... and stop being retarded.

Every time I see a 45 page post like this it ends up bad cable, or some kind of user error.

Do you think if its this hard to get working for you, it will be any easier to use once it does?

READ.

and maybe turn your thru off.

You won't lose the JJ os by rebooting. You will only loose the settings that you have put into it. No loss. MPC seems to be running fine though. The only thing I can really think to do now is to do a factory reset on the Fantom only. Just save any samples you have before doing so. Then just hook up the MIDI in of the Fantom to the out of the MPC. Do not touch any settings! Then play the sequence on channel 1. I dont want you to press anything but the on button on the fantom. Do not put it in multi mode... just leave it the way it is as it boots up. I just want you to establish a link here.

I know this shitt gets frustrating, but in the end this will all help you to troubleshoot once you realize what was wrong. Keep at it.

Grublet,

Oh yes, this is frustrating. It just doesn´t make sense. Very.

as you suggested,

1- I did a factory reset on fantom..

2- I rebooted the MPC1000 as you stated ( press ERASE while turning it on. Is this the way? It was just like turning it on. No difference).

3- I hooked up the FANTOM Midi In to MPC Midi Out.

4- Fantom audio is OK.

5- MPC audio is OK.

6. Both machines AS IS. I didn´t touch any settings.

7. I selected MIDI 1A on the MPC. MIDI mode. Program: off

6.I press record in MPC...

RESULTS: No notes played back. No midi events registered ( window+Seq Edit)
on both Roland Performance Mode or Patch Mode.

What should I do now?

Thank you very much Grublet. Enjoy your weekend!
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Do you have any other MIDI device? So far, it seems that your Fantom is sending out the MIDI info, and the MPC is recieving it. If you have anything else to help diagnose where the problem is coming from, it may be able to help find the issue. If you do, I want you to attatch it to the mpc to see if it can be triggered from the mpcs sequencer. Then check to see if you can have this other device trigger any sound from the Fantom.

As for the rebooting, it sounds like you did it correctly. All it does is reset the default values on the mpc. Looks the same.

Unfortunately I have no other midi device to test midi response.
...Do you use Fantom as well or any other brand? What are your settings? Maybe I could try to imitate the same set up.

Thank you for your help Wudsiba
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Watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx5w0BKhphc

It's pretty basic, which is what we want. He blows through things pretty quickly, so pay attention. At around 5 minutes into it he goes into the MIDI settings and changes Sequence change by program change off. You can try that (I'm thinking that maybe when your switching the Program in the MPC off, it's switching the Fantom off as well. Try this, but leave all the other settings alone and try to copy what this guy is doing.
I do have the Fantom. An X6. That's why I really thought I could help. I use these two machines together quite a bit.
Anyways... Watch this video, and do what this man does... Please let this work!
Good luck.

sample into mpc or load an existing program you have.... then send midi out of fantom to midi in mpc... if it is set to recieve channel "ALL" then you should be able to play your fantom, and hear the sounds in your MPC.

If this does not work... your fantom is not sending midi.


if it does, then do it the other way.

send midi out of mpc A to midi in of fantom.

on main screen switch drum to midi and scroll to channel 1A

press mpc pads. if this does not play your fantom, then your fantom is not recieving midi data.




just to make sure, you know MIDI is NOT audio right?

you have both outputs of the mpc and fantom set to your DAW or Mixer dont you?

The Grublet,

PROBLEM SOLVED. I just threw away the new pair of cables that I was using and got new ones and now everything is fine.

Sorry for having wated your time on this endless thread and, again, I can´t tell how much I appreciate your uninterested help. A couple of drinks on me if you come to Barcelona! This forum is the s***t.

Now I have to sync this rig with my cubase, but that´s up to me now.At least, I know that I was in the right path, but I have learned that solutions can be sometimes the problem: I was stuck in a overthought train of thought!

I will leave here my set up so nobody else experiences this newbie midi nightmare.
Thanks everyone.

My Roland Fantom- Akai MPC 1000 Midi Handshake Set Up:

Cables:
MPC MIDI OUT A to FANTOM MIDI IN
MPC MIDI IN 1 to FANTOM MIDI OUT
MPC stereo out to mixer
FANTOM stereo outs to mixer

MPC Settings:

MIDI TAB:
soft thru: AS TRACK or OFF
Active track receive channel: ALL
Sequence change : OFF
Pad to Internal Sound: ON

SYNC TAB:
Sync out: A Master
Mode: Midi Clock or Midi Time Code
frame rate: 25
MMC : ON

Fantom Settings:

Sound tab: LOCAL SWITCH ON

Sync/ Tempo TAB:

Sync mode: SLAVE MIDI
Sync Output: OFF
Arp Rhytm: off
MMC moder: slave
MMC output: OFF
rest of the settings under this tab:
30
0
0
0
0
5

MIDI Tab:

Device ID: 17
Performance: 16
Kb patch: 1
pad patch: 10
Transmit p change: on
Transmit Bank Select: on
Transmit Active Sensing: On
Transmit Edit Data:
Soft Through: Off

Under Receive:
Remote keyboard switch: Off
rest of options here: ON

Fantom in PERFORMAMCE MODE
On Mixer go to PART VIEW, then external and check that RX is the same channel as Mpc´s.
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Didn't I ask you to check the cables... Like one of the first things we went over... Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you finally got this shitt up and running, but it seems so anti-climactic. The cables! You better thank me personally, as I racked my brain over this shitt. I told you to swap them, check this, check that... The good thing is now you'll know how to troubleshoot much faster... The cables. For real? I'm lookin your ass up for sure if I'm ever in Barcelona. Fukk a drink, you need to get me drunk for that my man..

Seriously though, I'm glad you got this working. If I ever help you again, you must do exactly as I say, or I will hurt you. Seriously.

Grublet... You sure called it. You wrote something to the effect of "whenever these things run on for 45 pages it always ends up a bad cable" I could quote you, but I have spent enough time on this thread.

wudsiba wrote:Didn't I ask you to check the cables... Like one of the first things we went over... Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you finally got this **** up and running, but it seems so anti-climactic. The cables! You better thank me personally, as I racked my brain over this ****. I told you to swap them, check this, check that... The good thing is now you'll know how to troubleshoot much faster... The cables. For real? I'm lookin your ass up for sure if I'm ever in Barcelona. **** a drink, you need to get me drunk for that my man..

I have to give it to you dude, that took some real patience. Yeah, the problem was def called out a page or two ago.

This is the kind of sh!t that makes you go and invest in galobs of midi cables. I know my little collection (with varying lengths) has accumulated through the years, but to start off or you're just getting your feet wet in this stuff and something like this takes place, will def blow you.

I had a MIDI cable go bad on me one time. I have learned to check that stuff right off the bat. Even though it's rarely the problem, you have to get it out of the way so you don't end up beating the shitt out of yourself wondering what the hell your doing wrong like my man here.
We all go through it if you do this stuff long enough.
Nowadays, I keep a bag full of cables, adapters, etc. Better to have extra cables and not need them then to not have enough. Also, I never get the Monster cables or the cables lined with gold... Just decent cables. I bought one "cool" cable with a new guitar. Kind of wanted to have a set guitar cable. Turned out to be a piece of shitt. Also, never buy coiled cables. They produce way too much noise. Hosa cables have become my favorite. Cheap, and they work.

Dabmeister,

I´m sorry if I went off too quickly after reading your post. Please, accept my virtual apologies but my brain was fried with this midi f****d up thing. I think I wasnt offensivew though.

The thing is that one feels out of place asking to experts for help on a field that you should know beforehand (if you want to deal with ¨electronic music¨) . I just love music and play my piano...but hell, some people like have a really hard time understanding these machines, the technical part..This is not an excuse: I should have checked cables.Period. But, seriously, I have nobody where I live or know to ask for help... Thank you for your help.
Wudsiba,
Yeah, you bet: best cubatas and rum on the rocks for you.You´ve up there and I promise I will follow your directions letter-by-letter next time. But see?..I swapped cables but ...four midi, guitar-center like new cables can´t be bad!! I just assumed that. I was wrong..
Now I feel I can´t hit you up for some help next time because you´ll thnk: ¨here we go again this mpc chump, non native speaker!
To both of you,...GRACIAS !!!!