Techniques to get snares really cracking?

Definitely, and for the most part the newer the music is the higher the chance that it was compressed more.

HPF usually need to layers not necessarily the same sound but one u throw a fair bit of high pass so them highs really come out and slap.

Ok, so those of you who use HPF, EQ and Compression - do you feel the MPC's filters are sufficient for this, or do you usually do it externally, and if so - before or after sampling?

-Sampling a funk-jazz vynil in an Emax @ 15000Hz, pitching down the sample (assigning it to a higher note in this case).

-Parallel compression with a Urei 1176LN clone > set to high level input, all ratio buttons ON, set release to mini or a little less, attack set to max.

-Boosting highs back on the desk.

This is exactly what i did in this beat i started yesterday:
http://www.box.net/shared/6l3nx3dk10



For me it cracks but who knows...

Destinite wrote:Ok, so those of you who use HPF, EQ and Compression - do you feel the MPC's filters are sufficient for this, or do you usually do it externally, and if so - before or after sampling?

With time, good sampling skillz in choice of samples, layering, truncating you can achieve a pretty good result i think.
But for me the MPC (speaking for 3000) lacks a hipass filter an EQ on the sampling input and in the mixer.

pretty sure you want black milk drums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0FmHg5 ... re=related

nuts wrote:-Parallel compression with a Urei 1176LN clone > set to high level input, all ratio buttons ON, set release to mini or a little less, attack set to max.

Attack set to MAX? I thought setting the attack as low as possible would help it crack better and be more sudden and in your face...

boxcutter butta wrote:pretty sure you want black milk drums

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU0FmHg5 ... re=related

Those are a good example. I actually had Dr. Dre in mind, his snares snap hard.

Attack set to MAX? I thought setting the attack as low as possible would help it crack better and be more sudden and in your face...

For me it sounds more like a "pop" if you lower the attack time, especially with a high input level, not the effect wanted here i think.
I don't want to compress the transient , but to put the body and the dirtyness forward.


It is not a rule, it depends of the snare track type, with a more acoustic one lowering the attack can help.

nuts wrote:-Parallel compression with a Urei 1176LN clone > set to high level input, all ratio buttons ON, set release to mini or a little less, attack set to max.

What is the Urei 1176LN clone you use?

Jfalconcrest wrote:

temetrepo wrote:Eq, and a transient designer helps

Any transient designer you can recommend? I've never really worked with one before.

SPL has a dope one.
There are a few freeware ones too

DJ Plan A wrote:

nuts wrote:-Parallel compression with a Urei 1176LN clone > set to high level input, all ratio buttons ON, set release to mini or a little less, attack set to max.

What is the Urei 1176LN clone you use?

It is an Mnats version, i didn't remember wich revision it copied but one of the most popular.
It only differs with an OEP output transformer.
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poundaproblem wrote:Most importantly....start with a good sample! A crap snare will always be a crap snare.

+10

Destinite wrote:Ok, so those of you who use HPF, EQ and Compression - do you feel the MPC's filters are sufficient for this, or do you usually do it externally, and if so - before or after sampling?

I rarely do this stuff on the MPC. For me its all done once I track out the beat to ProTools.

I usually compress my snares. I agree with finding a good sound, if It's good from the beginning then you need little alteration.

When I'm looking for a really dope snare I just set up my drums in a cavern and record there. I only like the most natural reverberations.

Explicit- wrote:

poundaproblem wrote:Most importantly....start with a good sample! A **** snare will always be a **** snare.

+10

+ eq, layer and...., the sp-1200