Direct Record>Re-Sample>Exported Wav's Sound Quality? (1000)

I'm looking at getting an mpc1000 jjos and read about its ability to record a finished song sequence by re-sampling it through the main out into a new wav file, then exporting the wav by usb to the computer for cd burning. I just wanted to know if this process affects the sound of the original song sequence at all? I've tried this on a Fantom X6 before and the exported wav always loses about half its original volume, and nearly impossible to get it back to full without clipping, even with normalizing before and after.

Does the MPC 1000jjos do the same thing?

you need to normalize your .wav file before burning it to CD, which is probably why the fantom sounded quiet. Not all devices output a .wav file at the same volume.

Thanks, so if I do it on the mpc, it will sound fine as long as I normalize it before burning the cd?

I discussed this with some other Fantom users and they all experience the same thing even after normalizing it. It must be just a Fantom issue, thanks.

I have a Fantom X6 also. I've always wondered why resampling level is so much lower, but normalizing has always worked for me. You may try lowering the internal volume when initially resampling. (In the System Menu, Sound, Gain Level) Let me know if you try this.

you shouldn't get clipping when normalizing - normalizing means changing the amplitude so that the loudest part is at max volume. to get clipping would mean some parts are going (or trying to go) past max volume ... or it's already clipped before normalizing.

sure you're not trying to normalize to a level the hardware can't handle? e.g. -1dB when it can't do more than -3dB or something

Pastor-of-Muppets wrote:you shouldn't get clipping when normalizing - normalizing means changing the amplitude so that the loudest part is at max volume. to get clipping would mean some parts are going (or trying to go) past max volume ... or it's already clipped before normalizing.

sure you're not trying to normalize to a level the hardware can't handle? e.g. -1dB when it can't do more than -3dB or something

Yeah, I know what your saying, I don't think I mentioned it but I meant to say I tried normalizing and it didn't work, so then I tried some volume boosting plug-in and had to crank it up past 0db to get to back to the original volume, it wasn't necessarily clipping as in making clipping noise, but the sound was all muddy and a little distorted, but no, the sound was perfect in the fantom before exporting.

As wudsiba said, he had the same issue, but normalizing worked for him. Maybe it was just the program I was using to normailze had a glitch or something.

Anyway, I got rid that Fantom a long time ago, I just wanted to know about the MPC and make sure it doesn't do the same thing before I purchase one. From the responses it sounds like it should be okay.

Thanks

Try out some decent compression hardware/software. It might help you get a better sound, but will kill the dynamics the harder you push it.

It is entirely possible that the way you are mixing on the fantom is introducing clipping, but managing it better than the way it is being rendered to a .wav. If that is the case I'd suggest trying to record off of the outputs and see what you get.

Good luck!

NearTao wrote:Try out some decent compression hardware/software. It might help you get a better sound, but will kill the dynamics the harder you push it.

It is entirely possible that the way you are mixing on the fantom is introducing clipping, but managing it better than the way it is being rendered to a .wav. If that is the case I'd suggest trying to record off of the outputs and see what you get.

Good luck!

Thanks, but I got rid of the Fantom a while ago. I was asking about how it sounds on the mpc as I was thinking of buying one last night. Today I just won one on ebay w/ 128 mb RAM, the blue/red version, for $370 + $20 shipping. Looks and sounds to be in great condition. For that price, even if I have the same problem I had on the Fantom, which it sounds like I shouldn't based on responses, I could afford to just buy a used audio interface to make cd's.

I am wondering about the pads since they are the original, but the seller said they work great and are soft and very sensitive, but its a great price either way.

Thanks again for all the tips

The master FX compression should take care of your needs pretty well here, use that with the EQ.... resample your track and then normalize, you should be pretty happy. I've had no complaints.

cool, thanks. Do you have jjos installed? I was thinking of adding it for the audio tracks, have you ever used them, any good?

TweakFreq wrote:cool, thanks. Do you have jjos installed? I was thinking of adding it for the audio tracks, have you ever used them, any good?

Jj is great, I personally love it. Audio tracks are an awesome addition and great for tracking and creating loops.