Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By mordecai1989 Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:53 pm
Hi I need help mixing and recording my tracks. Spose go collage soon but it taken while cause i got asthma

so sumtimes hard to leave my home.

I was woundering if there was anyone on here dat lives close to crosby tx who can maybe come by

show me some tricks and stuff on mixing and recording.



I'll even pay some one to come by and help me. i try reading articles books but they dont help as much.



So if you live close crosby tx and can maybe cum out i would appreciate it.



Peace

Marcus
By J Hill Fri Apr 23, 2010 10:14 pm
mordecai1989 wrote:Hi I need help mixing and recording my tracks. Spose go collage soon but it taken while cause i got asthma

so sumtimes hard to leave my home.

I was woundering if there was anyone on here dat lives close to crosby tx who can maybe come by

show me some tricks and stuff on mixing and recording.



I'll even pay some one to come by and help me. i try reading articles books but they dont help as much.



So if you live close crosby tx and can maybe cum out i would appreciate it.



Peace

Marcus

Yo Marcus I got asthma too, just finished coming over a asthma attack last sunday. so i feel your pain,

but what if you hit me on [email protected] we can possibly assist each other in learning how to do the production tip because alot of the experienced users here seem they have forgotten what it was like when they first started.

btw im just as new as you, so im sure i can learn from u and visa versa
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By dabmeister Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:01 am
J Hill wrote:alot of the experienced users here seem they have forgotten what it was like when they first started.


Nah, I haven't forgotten what it was like when I first started...no computers...no internet...no midi...going to music class throughout my grade school years...had to learn how to read music...taking what I learned in music and applying it to the technology that supported it at that time, even up 'til now.

So in other words, I got grounded in this stuff decades ago and have been fortunate enough to see things come from new ideas to where the fields are saturated with all kinds of gadgets now.

It was more of a learn as you go kinda thing for me.
By J Hill Sat Apr 24, 2010 5:38 am
Dab,
I respect all of that and I'm not knocking that for one second. But that particular comment was aimed at the users who spend more time in dissing and getting their rocks off on talking shit to new users instead of pointing them in a good direction.

I know of YouTube, I know of google but nothing beats advice or help from kats who are currently working with the elements that us new users ask about. I don't want someone to make a track for me or chop a loop, or press my drums out. When I ask a "how to" or "what does" type question it's to get a 101 from someone who could go indepth instead of a text based document that gives me a vanilla explanation. It's easy to say "the such and such does this" but it's a complete different thing when it's broken down to explain how one would go about it.

YouTube is a great source and I have learned from some of the videos but I can't contact Marco Polo, Premo, 9th, Doom, Khalil and ask em' how did they do this or how do I get this type of effect or feel. And I honestly feel that it seems like alot of you users (you being experienced users) feel like it's not good to school us young bucks because we might blow up and y'all will feel jipped or something. All I ask for is some help not no slick talk.
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By dabmeister Sat Apr 24, 2010 12:21 pm
I'm sorry dude, all I stated was I had to ground myself first then whatever else that came along, I could better dissect and understand what it was I was dealing with.

A lot of katz these days want instant gratification without the basic fundamentals that then leads to better understanding the craft in a whole.

Plus I'd be lying to you if I said all you have to do is gather a few pieces of gear here and there, make a few beats mixed with samples/lyrics, throw it out to some a&r folks and you have a good chance of making it.

But that's the mentality of the masses now, because we've got youtube and whatever else out there that makes you think you can do what others do but not have to deal with the beneath the scenes principles.

I'm not being grand or boasting about my experiences, hell, I wish I had what is offered these days as opposed to the grind it out way I had to learn things back then.

But I'll start helping by saying...one of the most integral components of recording and mixing is knowing how to eq your sounds. Capturing a solid performance without any distortion or low volume issues is key and that includes importing media from other sources too.

All this thing is, learning principles the pro's use and a lot of that can be found from some basic sources like blogs and forums. I know if you really want the sticky on recording and mixing principles, go to http://www.recording.org and dig into anything there that might interest you. There's a few industry kats that moderate that site so there you go...
By J Hill Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:57 am
dabmeister wrote:I'm sorry dude, all I stated was I had to ground myself first then whatever else that came along, I could better dissect and understand what it was I was dealing with.

A lot of katz these days want instant gratification without the basic fundamentals that then leads to better understanding the craft in a whole.

Plus I'd be lying to you if I said all you have to do is gather a few pieces of gear here and there, make a few beats mixed with samples/lyrics, throw it out to some a&r folks and you have a good chance of making it.

But that's the mentality of the masses now, because we've got youtube and whatever else out there that makes you think you can do what others do but not have to deal with the beneath the scenes principles.

I'm not being grand or boasting about my experiences, hell, I wish I had what is offered these days as opposed to the grind it out way I had to learn things back then.

But I'll start helping by saying...one of the most integral components of recording and mixing is knowing how to eq your sounds. Capturing a solid performance without any distortion or low volume issues is key and that includes importing media from other sources too.

All this thing is, learning principles the pro's use and a lot of that can be found from some basic sources like blogs and forums. I know if you really want the sticky on recording and mixing principles, go to http://www.recording.org and dig into anything there that might interest you. There's a few industry kats that moderate that site so there you go...


Lol man Im not mad at you and its my fault if it came off that way but thats just the general feel I get from majority of users on this forum.

I completely agree and understand with what you said far as people thinking success will happen over night as opposed to hard-work and timing. but honestly I think that will always be the thought process of the masses especially with the ever evolving growth of interconnectivity between media forums and internet access. I was having a talk with some older heads about how all the fans and inspiring artist only see is the rewards being reaped by the "new" artist in the game and fail to see or take notice of the years it takes to groom a artists into what he/she is presenting on tv.

Again I agree the fundamentals should be learned, I have a thirst for knowledge and when I hear producers do some amazing shit with a beat you wouldn't ever think could sound as funky as it does once flipped, i get more interested. maybe my anger is due to the fact I cant find all the information I want to know as easily as I would like, but if more experienced users do what you are doing then I wouldnt have an issue. but on the real, who the **** am I?

Preciate the site man! Im about to go register on it now
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By dj e.d.e Mon Apr 26, 2010 10:36 pm
you learn by doing things on your own thats what brings you exprience.
dont be afraid to use your gear it wont blow up,

give more detail in what your using to record with,makes for the users that use the same gear to answer your questions.

dont take it so personally, these boards get tuff sometimes, but still a great place to learn, do alot of reading of past post. learn the search funcution it will help find many thing in back pages
By J Hill Tue Apr 27, 2010 12:55 pm
dj e.d.e wrote:you learn by doing things on your own thats what brings you exprience.
dont be afraid to use your gear it wont blow up,

give more detail in what your using to record with,makes for the users that use the same gear to answer your questions.

dont take it so personally, these boards get tuff sometimes, but still a great place to learn, do alot of reading of past post. learn the search funcution it will help find many thing in back pages


I understand that, where my frustration comes into play is that some users would rather waste 20+ posts cracking jokes when 1 of those couldve easily answered a question. again Im not asking for someone to do the question or task at hand for me, Im just asking for a simple point in the right direction.

I see where some of you senior users get mad when people ask questions covered by the manual and I respect that, but I see and hear where you are coming from man.
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By Pastor-of-Muppets Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:19 pm
J Hill wrote:I understand that, where my frustration comes into play is that some users would rather waste 20+ posts cracking jokes when 1 of those couldve easily answered a question. again Im not asking for someone to do the question or task at hand for me, Im just asking for a simple point in the right direction.


you say "waste 20+ posts" as though there's some limit on them, or it's a precious commodity

there are lots of people who spend a fair amount of time on this forum and if they get kicks out of cracking jokes that's their business. noone is obliged to answer you

if you want help, ask carefully worded, clear questions (not "Best Monitors for MPC's ????" for example!) - I suggest everyone reads http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- it's relevant to any technical questions
By Clint Tue Apr 27, 2010 4:42 pm
If you go out and buy a book on the subject, it will not mock you.

Look around the Internet for some of the credible music production websites.

Bookmark/ download any articles you believe may be useful to YOU.

Don't forget that there are plenty of useful links posted in these forums, if you look in the right places you will find them.

My personal favourite music production websites are listed below, check out the articles.

1. http://www.soundonsound.com/

2. http://www.tweakheadz.com/guide.htm

3. http://www.computermusic.co.uk/
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By DJ Plan A Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:38 pm
Here are a few pieces that have helped me:

Book rec: Audio in Media by Stanley R. Alten
Book rec: Making Beats by Joseph Schloss

Crucial practical suggestion:

protect your hearing. ALWAYS wear earplugs at shows and when operating noisy machinery. If you go to a show and have forgotten your plugs, some balled up toilet paper will be better than nothing--just don't get it lodged in there or push it too hard against your eardrums.