The quality of mono tracking out ?

I think i know what would be a good way to export a long looped tracks at a time. I read a lot about this topic and a lot of people compalining of the different sound coming out the monos's. One of the solutions might be adding a DVD drive to my MPC. This way i can save all the individual tracks directly on the drive in 16 or even in 24 bit.Of course this would not include the midi tracks coming from my synths. So when i have the recorded tracks on my drive i just drop them on my DAW through the USB and then track out the midi tracks thru the main out's of the MPC. They will take some time too but I think it will be much faster than tracking out everything thru the main out's ... Damn i really wanna resolve this thing cause it's very important for the creative process. What do you guys think about that ?

I dont know what your price point would be but I use RME 400. I track either stereo L/R or individual 1-8 via adat wire from my 5000 to my rme fireface 400. Less wire clutter and Sound quality is great to say the least. I'd recommend RME Fireface 400, 800 or UC.

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Ohh too... the bouce down individual tracks method will work too. You do not need the DVD drive to do that. Just bounce the wavs to the internal hard drive and connect the 5000 via usb to the computer, mount drive and copy files over to the computer.

psr,thanks for the help. The RME is a good option, I know, it's the Bentley of the interfaces but right now I'm not willing to spend $1000 on that.

You pleased me with a great news - I didn't know that it's possible to save the tracks on the HD. I'll try that. Thanks for the love !

psr, actually I might be wrong but as far as I can see the MPC can save on the HD only the eight tracks played from an external instruments and that was not my goal. I was meaning saving all the tracks of the sequencer played with samples from the entire MPC memory - drums,samples etc ... But I can't find an option like this in the manual ...

I believe you are wrong, MPC of course can 'bounce' internal tracks as well as external.
This might be a valid option for you...but bouncing down in MPC, the transferring to PC, opening the files in your DAW...well, you might as well just record directly in your DAW via ADAT.

Guys is there a way to export the individual tracks of each project directly to the HD Drive ?
. In HD Record mode there is an option for exporting only the mixed file/song. The other option is "bounce to tracks" where you can choose a maximum 2 of 8 tracks for export but it seems that this is only for the recorded 8 channels and not for the entire tracks ... I read the manual and keep reading it but can't find any info about it.

Also do you think that this will be a good choice for tracking out - Alesis adat. I know it's a classic and most of the big musicians use this .http://www.broadcaststore.com/store/mod ... m?id=13848

Or I should go with something like this recorder from BOSS http://www.thomann.de/gb/zoom_r16.htm

It records 8 tracks simultaneously.

seiko i sent you a message but don't know if you've received it because it does not appear in the SENT messages but in the Outbox ....

Friends, I decided to buy a EMU 1616 sound card and to use it's ADAT for exporting 8 tracks at a time from my MPC5000. Would you tell me what will be the sound of the exported files through the ADAT.will they be in MONO or will they have any differences compared to the tracks exported through the main out of the MPC. Just wanna be sure that I will be 100% satisfied with this purchase before I buy it because the sound card is not cheap at all. Thanks

Sorry for the late reply. Yes I pretty certain you can bounce down the tracks that way. I believe I've done it before... by mistake when just trying to bounce down a stereo wav of a song sequence. I'm gonna try it again and let you know for certain. I just dont do it much because i use the the adat connection for monitoring L/R and tracking instead individuals.

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tracking out via adat can be done with stereo L/R or mono

psr, I'm sooo thankful for your answer. Now when I know that ADAT uses the L/R outs i can be sure that the quality will be perfect ... Also I'll be very thankful if you really inform me how did you bounce the individual entire tracks of the project. Because if exporting this way is possible i would not need to buy an E-MU 1616 for tracking out. I'll wait for your answer. Thanks for the love !

GENOVEZE sorry man I may have mispoken. I went and tried it again and noticed it was only L/R bounce. I went to the manual too and couldnt find it in there that 5k can do it. Sorry to have misinformed you famo. But the adat method works like a charm i use it all the time. and if you've found a reasonably priced alternative to rme that will allow u to use the adat connection, go for it. its clean and sounds great. even my dirty stuff sounds great.

There is no problem my friend,you helped me already enough. Yeah I'm buying a sound card with ADAT for sure. I know the RME's are one of the best choices but they are quite expensive and I see the E-Mu 1616m has ADAT and all the In's and Out's I need so isn't it a good choice ... Also the E-MU's are known for their great converters ... The RME Multiface is the other option but I'm not sure I'm willing to spend that stack ... :=) . Just one question - do you use the both In and Out of your ADAT sound card when you use it to export tracks or just use the MPC ADAT's Out to the ADAT's In of the sound card ? I just need to know what kind of ADAT cable should I buy. Thanks

I think you are making a mistake

If you want to export your sonds like you hear them on stereo out, you have to either record them straight from your stereo out OR record the stereo out via ADAT.
If you want to record 8 channels at once via ADAT, this will mean that you will have to route sounds to other channels then your stereo out so they will sound differently as you loose the Main Effects that are only on stereo out.

So if you really insist on having the sounds with the FX of the Stereo Out, you will have to record them one by one via the stereo out, with other words, why would you need the ADAT then ? then just record from your stereo out.


ADAT IN or OUT cables are just the same, you would need only one cable to go from MPC to PC.
ADAT=8 Mono channels

(but in my opinion you have everything allready needed : learn from the manual how to bounce down tracks, do some thinking, everything can neatly be recorded to your harddisk from which you can copy paste it to your DAW...I'm afraid you are making things too difficult)

seiko,thanks for the answer my friend ! Different experiences - different answers ... i'm totally confused. I'm not trying to make things difficult. on the contrary I want to to make it easy and fast to help to my creativity. I don't want to wait 2 minutes for exporting each track individually ... and this is only for one sequencer ... If exporting tracks via ADAT does not include the used effects and the tracks are in mono then I really don't need the ADAT. OK you say I have to find the option for exporting tracks to the MPC drive but you don't show the way ... No there is not such option described in the manual. Our mate psr said he can't find such option too. It's interesting for me how you guys have the patience to export the tracks one by one ... Do you work with 4 bars on sequencer only ... This is definitely not my way.

im at the same spot as u my friend... but if u think about it, wat are u tracking out for in the first place? if its so u can mix the individual tracks together in your DAW for a better sound then u really dont need the MPC main effects right?... just a thought

note that

1) you can also use ADAT channels in stereo, so you can record 4 stereo channels at once

2) you only lose the MASTER EFFECTS on the channels that don't carry the Main Out channels, you can set up the 'normal' FX to be routed to any of the assigneable channels.
MASTER FX (EQ + Compressor) are only available on the Stereo Out.

So if you monitor your MPC5000 via Stereo Out, but want to record on different channels, then you will have a different sound.
Solutions :
1) disable the Master FX and then you will hear through Stereo Out exatcly what you will hear when tracking out via assigneable. But note that then, when you want to have your effects when tracking out, you will have to assigne their routing to the correct assigneable out instead of stereo.
2) what would make more sense is : use the analog out's to go to your mixing desk, make all necessary routings for the FX to the correct assigenable out. ADAT outputs are copies of your analog out's so if you record them in your DAW, it will be exactly what how you heard them on your mixer.