Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
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By outland Mon Aug 30, 2004 11:36 pm
This seems too simple, but if all you need to do is play back tracks for MCs' to rhyme over, why not get some cd players. Of course, the more you can afford the better. Like those Numark CDXs. My friend got one and they are extremely tight. I don't think I'd bother pressing vinyl, as that's outrageously too expensive. Not even an option IMO.

And as far as dj goes, it doesn't sound like you're beat matching anything so as long as you know how to press "play", what exactly is the problem? I've been dj'ing for years, pick up a mixer and you'll know what you're doing in less then an hour. There's nothing to it, just cue it, and you're ready to do.

What's this 360 degrees, instant replay thing? I did a search and just got results about the NFL using instant replay?

:P
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By DOVESKI Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:12 am
sizzahanz73 wrote: I would suggest you invest in CD Turntable(s). I'm a vinyl purist, but you can't beat these on the road. I rock my shows with my Vestax PDX2000 tt's cuttin' vinyl, with my Numark CDX CD turntables for the show disk.


yup.
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By Freedom Tue Aug 31, 2004 12:40 am
Funny thing watch all the djs with the instant reply system they act like they spinmning the,m \\\ records they just pressin buttons
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By outland Tue Aug 31, 2004 1:10 am
eh, that thing looks funny. Says is stores 24 hours of audio, hehe....
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By Archetype_J Tue Aug 31, 2004 2:23 pm
Get your sh*t pressed on wax. Period. If you are wary of this, then you ain't ready to rock a show. Nuff said.

If you can't do that, record every other song on two CD's and mix them back and forth.


And if you do that, you better be a HYPE MC on stage......
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By ieism Tue Aug 31, 2004 4:48 pm
You don't really have to spend $5000 to rock a show. I saw an mc called Sage Francis last year, and he only had a discman an a barstool. He'd just press pause or skip sometimes.
The beats were tight, the rymes were dope, and the crowd loved it.

True hiphop doesn't need to be all that fancy. It's skills that count.
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By outland Wed Sep 01, 2004 1:20 am
[quote="Archetype_J"]Get your sh*t pressed on wax. Period. If you are wary of this, then you ain't ready to rock a show. Nuff said.

why?
Maybee I'm totally misinformed, but doesn't pressing vinyl require a minimum of about 100 copies? The best deal I've ever heard of is a buddy of mine who rhymes, knows another mc who pressed 80 pieces for his demo and that ran him about 600 bucks. (Which I think is about as cheap as it gets)

I've never met anyone who's pressed less than that. So unless you want to give out 90 copies of your "instrumentals on one side /songs on the other side" record, again why bother? Plus anyone who knows, knows that the LP won't bump like a single. For that money you could get some decent cd players anyways. A dj can scratch over top a cd with his own tables too!
Problem solved...
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By Archetype_J Wed Sep 01, 2004 2:12 pm
Well. The way i see it. If you're doing shows, you want publicity. So press some wax. And hit up radio stations..... do you know how many cd-r's radio stations see a day? Vinyl will set you apart and give you a professional appeal.

But, if you don't want to go that route, i'm not sure about where you're at..... but here, there's a local record shop who will cut you one or two dub plates if you want.


Sorry.... i guess i'm "old school"........ Hip Hop shows are boring enough as it is. All we need is more cats rocking laptops and discmans with no mic control.
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By ieism Wed Sep 01, 2004 4:38 pm
Dubs are only about $50 a piece here, but if you have to pay a dj and get some decks too that's still a lot of money.
I'm not saying a discman or computer is better than a dj, but i prefer to see a good mc with no dj, than a wack mc with a great dj.
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By outland Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:12 pm
yeah, don't get me wrong. I'm a vinyl man myself.

Good point about the publicity thing and how it would set you apart from all the cdr's a radio station would get.

whoa, I never heard of someone getting 1 or 2 pieces done. That's pretty cool. I've read that alot of drum and bass / jungle dj's get dub plates pressed for themselves, I just never gave it any thought though.

Does anyone know of somewhere on-line that you can send your stuff to get pressed? My town is way to small for something like that.

By RonDu Fri Sep 03, 2004 4:43 pm
Lord Toranaga wrote:hip-Hop crwes without DJ's Are WHACK!!!!


Maybe you should go back to the drawing board.
Or consider hiring a dj to do shows.
I would staught heckle a crew with no dj. Hip Hop music is based on DJ's. Blah... i could go on for days.

I'm sorry if I seem harsh. Maybe your crew is not ready for shows until you have a way to perform the music properly, Not like a bunch of toy boy punk suckers.

About all the crews using the 360 playback system. THEY HAVE THER DJ OPERATE WHILE THE DJ CONTROLS THE SHOW!!!

all wack crews can die in a ditch.


I agree. It's not Hip-Hop without the DJ. Kool Herc, live on!!

By JBeats Sat Sep 04, 2004 12:15 am
Bet,
Well I appreciate all the feed back. I hollered at some people and found a dj who wants to get down with us. We are going to try the vinyl route first if that doesnt work we can get down with the cd's too. But I definately feel the show would be just a cd listening party with out the dj.
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By DSTRUCT Sun Sep 05, 2004 2:49 am
ieism wrote:You don't really have to spend $5000 to rock a show. I saw an mc called Sage Francis last year, and he only had a discman an a barstool. He'd just press pause or skip sometimes.
The beats were tight, the rymes were dope, and the crowd loved it.

True hiphop doesn't need to be all that fancy. It's skills that count.



sage francis is ill. haha after listening to his music, i can picture him rockin a damn disman. lol.



I did small shows playing beats from mixers, and small shows playing beats from cds, never a dj. Ive always rocked the crowd though.

By JBeats Sun Sep 05, 2004 11:11 pm
Yeah thats all I wanna do. Im not trying to rock the Target Center or nothin, just small shows. But its gotta be hot! Its hard for hip hop to get a following here. There are so many people that are "MC's" its amazing. And nobody wants to support anyone else. We just going gangsta the hip hop scene. Get a group of different MC's, Singers, and Spoken word artists and try to take over. Build the foundation strong so the building can stand the rough weather. Is it hard for anyone else to get a following?