Exchange tips and tricks for the Akai MPC4000
By Ol'Sparky Mon Jun 14, 2004 7:21 pm
I haven't been able to quite get my head around exactly how the shift amount affects the swing percentage, can any of you fill me in? I want to get some lazy Primo sounding kick drum patterns and I'm having a tough time getting the swing just right. I've turned timing off but it's still really hard. Let me know if you have any tricks for me!
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By Mohammed Tue Jun 15, 2004 2:31 am
Do you know how to adjust the swing??

Go to swing in seq edit or mainpage,,, and press window,, adjust the % and press do it

By Ol'Sparky Tue Jun 15, 2004 7:17 am
Right I know how to put swing on the sequences but there is a parameter inside of the Swing window that says "shift amount" and this is besides the actual "swing %". Do any of you know how to use this well?

By bleepfreak Tue Jun 15, 2004 9:21 am
The shift amount can be set to earlier and later and has an amount measured in ticks, the smallest grid in the MPC. You can also select a pad to move. The other notes will be left unaffected. You can also insert a time span to which the shift amount will be effective. Please note that the result can only be monitored after pressing DO IT.

In short this means you can push and pull your beats a little by applying this shift amount in a certain amount, during a cetain period of time to a certain note / pad. To find out how this works best for your music just experiment with the settings a lot. Then if you know how it works you can start applying it more conciously. You just have to spend time into timing...
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By Blue Haze Sun May 02, 2010 10:16 am
Alot of the mpc power comes from these settings swing and shift. I is helpful for many to learn this in their mpcs. Nothing quite as good in other sequencers.

Best of all on the 4k maybe the 5k I don`t you can get the results before you apply it. Just select a pad and go.
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By dabmeister Mon May 03, 2010 1:08 pm
I know the few amounts that are added go a long way. In other words, there's a noticable difference with just a couple of degrees of adjustment.
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By Blue Haze Mon May 03, 2010 1:15 pm
It is a great part of the MPC series indeed. Surely a key component in a mpc users arsenal.
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By dabmeister Mon May 03, 2010 1:37 pm
Blue Haze wrote:It is a great part of the MPC series indeed. Surely a key component in a mpc users arsenal.


+1, Plus Bleep had mentioned monitoring only after committing to the process. I usually make a duplicate copy of the file beforehand just in case things don't come out right.
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By elevated Mon May 03, 2010 3:37 pm
Ibunshi wrote:I'd love to be able to control shift and swing with the Q links


JJ OS for mpc1000/2500
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By Blue Haze Tue May 04, 2010 5:17 am
bleepfreak wrote:The shift amount can be set to earlier and later and has an amount measured in ticks, the smallest grid in the MPC. You can also select a pad to move. The other notes will be left unaffected. You can also insert a time span to which the shift amount will be effective. Please note that the result can only be monitored after pressing DO IT.

In short this means you can push and pull your beats a little by applying this shift amount in a certain amount, during a cetain period of time to a certain note / pad. To find out how this works best for your music just experiment with the settings a lot. Then if you know how it works you can start applying it more conciously. You just have to spend time into timing...



Adding to this a sequencer is a timing grid stamping in notes and replaying the notes using a timing scale of 1/8, 1/16, and so on. We can edit when the notes timing on this scale by moving earlier or later to the core timing in ticks.

There are alot of shift ranges dependent on the timing 1/8, 1/16, also with triplets. Say 1/16 you can start to hear alot of different from the shift timing along the 15 to 40 range to start with. Shift timing is beat placement on the sequencer timing grid. You are like the poster above stated moving the pad or track even earlier or later on the timing grid to off beat for syncopation. One tip is to set the shift to the max and then bring it down tick by tick until your head is snapping to the groove you want. Like many other stated long before me you can add this to many different notes and add the swing to each too. It only works on quantized settings obviously but is a natural part of a sequencer so that a programmer can easily adjust the strict timing of a quantized pattern to a more offbeat human feel. We all have to learn our tools to get more usage out of them. The MPC`s major central control in within this part. And of course we can turn it off and go free hand too.


The same is use on DAW with the delay parameter in Logic along with the swing settings.
By glide Wed May 05, 2010 12:49 pm
like Blue has pointed out these are essential features and can make or brake a groove ...and they are realtime on the 4k!!... best advice is use your ears.. at some point the groove will just lock and bring the whole pattern to a new level... you just have to find the sweet zone..
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By Ibunshi Wed May 05, 2010 1:40 pm
elevated wrote:
Ibunshi wrote:I'd love to be able to control shift and swing with the Q links


JJ OS for mpc1000/2500


Ah, Cool! tho not enough reason for me to get one just for that feature.