assignable outs volume seem too low

busy learning the mpc1000 (got a used one last month and lovin it).

In setting up an assignable out so our drummer can get a certain loop/beat in her headphones, I'm noticing the alt outs are not nearly as hot as the main outs.
(Mixer levels for both outs set the same).

Is there any way to remedy this?
I need the signal to be as least as loud as the main out signal.

The main outs are set to -6db, if this helps.
Also, i do NOT have anything like a compressor or eq turned on.

Thanks

I should add, I'm using the same sample in this test, first routing it to the main st outs, then routing it to one of the assignable outs. It's not nearly as loud with the mixer volume on each set the same. I also tried sending it to a 'pair' of assignable outs, like 1/2 or 3/4. still not as hot as the main st outs (again, with NO compressor or EQ turned on).

Anybody?
Is this normal?

thanks

ok, still trying to figure out this minor annoyance.

quote from the akai mpc1000 specs....
"Analog Output = +17dBu [Stereo & Assignable Outs]"

i'm interpreting this to mean that all the outs are potentially equal in volume output.

But again, trying the same sample, at the same volume (with NO added compressor or EQ), the main st outs are significantly louder than any of the assignable mix outputs.

anybody else experienced this?
is there something wrong with my machine?

any help appreciated.

i do believe the individual outs are a bit lower than the MAIN outs. i think compression can only be applied to the MAIN outs as well...

i can't seem to find anywhere here that this has been addressed b4, but i could be wrong.

basically, i'm sending an assignable out to our drummer's headphones, and what she is getting -she needs it to be reasonably loud. louder than what i'm getting from the assignable outs.

you might say, use louder samples. but i am using loud samples.
it's slammin thru the main st outs as well as thru the main st headphones out.

i'm thinking a workaround would be to get some kind of gain boost pedal and run the needed assignable out thru that on route to the drummer's headphones- to beef it up in volume.

thanks much for the reply.
any other ideas?

buy a basic mixer with gain controls, route the outs into that, and the drummer can listen to the mixer output

Right on, thanks that's a good idea.

I was considering a boost pedal (made for guitar), but even a tiny mixer (A.R.T), or one of those little Rolls personal headphone amps would do the trick for adding extra gain. (if i have to go this route of adding a piece of hardware, small size is very important)

one more related question:
is there any way in the mixer to send a sample thru the main st out AND an assignable out?
I have free jj os 3.10 and my mixer out options are ST/12/34/1/2/3/4.
I was wondering if the other jj os versions have the possibility of sending a sample to more than one of those output options at the same time???

thanks much.

doctari wrote:is there any way in the mixer to send a sample thru the main st out AND an assignable out?

you could duplicate the track and then change the output on one of them... i'm not sure right now if you would have to create a duplicate of your program in order to have each with a different out though... probably so... but it is possible, you just need to think up the work-arounds...

@doctari: as the default setting for the main output is -12dB and you set it to -6dB, I might be the case that the single outputs are 6dB softer because of the change you made to the main out... just out of interest, try to revert to -12dB for main out, and see if the volumes are the same.

audioworld wrote:@doctari: as the default setting for the main output is -12dB and you set it to -6dB, I might be the case that the single outputs are 6dB softer because of the change you made to the main out... just out of interest, try to revert to -12dB for main out, and see if the volumes are the same.

good point... i didn't even think about that detail...

ahh that's it!
yes at -12db the main outs now seem to be the same level as the assignable mix outs (which are obviously at -12db).

But without being able to set those assignable mix outs at a higher level, I'll prob still have to get something like a little mixer or headphone amp to give some extra gain to what i'm sending to the drummer's headphones.

thanks for the tips. much appreciated.

ok, glad we have peace of mind now, sometimes it helps to have worked as an audio engineer for the last 25 years..-))) doesn't improve my grooves, though.