Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.

By 44GunnzUpNukka Fri Sep 03, 2004 5:04 am
:arrow: Im new to the board and all..but when i read some of the stuff da kid mattmatikz say'z...iz bias! underground, mainstream...who carez....just stay tru to what ya do, make musik! hardcore, horrocore, dsouth, midwest, underground, blah blah....hiphop supposed to be diff. if erbody sounded da same...shit would be duller dan it iz!

and If ya ask me....any underground head would love to have mainstream success! and Any mainstream cat wouldve love to have dat underground(the streets) success....somethingl like 50 did when he came out! 50 captured both..he had da streets...adn mainstream talking....! its like and 1 and da NBA!

but...w/e...i like both....so ..i aint riding on either...im on da fence...
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By MattMatiks PG Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:18 am
44GunnzUpNukka wrote::arrow: Im new to the board and all..but when i read some of the stuff da kid mattmatikz say'z...iz bias! underground, mainstream...who carez....just stay tru to what ya do, make musik! hardcore, horrocore, dsouth, midwest, underground, blah blah....hiphop supposed to be diff. if erbody sounded da same...**** would be duller dan it iz!

and If ya ask me....any underground head would love to have mainstream success! and Any mainstream cat wouldve love to have dat underground(the streets) success....somethingl like 50 did when he came out! 50 captured both..he had da streets...adn mainstream talking....! its like and 1 and da NBA!

but...w/e...i like both....so ..i aint riding on either...im on da fence...


Actually read my posts next time... I said I listen to good music... While I consider myself more underground I listen to plenty of mainstream cats... I just don't relate to a lot of what's goin on in the mainstream... But at the same time I don't listen to something just because it's "underground" and automatically not listen cause it's "mainstream"...

Read before you respond next time...
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By MattMatiks PG Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:21 am
binger0 wrote::roll: okay dude. lets go back to you preachin bout how real it is and all that ****.


Never preached about the "Realness" d*ckface... Read my posts just a little bit deeper.... Don't try to just fit me into your stereotype of what underground heads are like...

And I have no regrets of what I said to you... How are you gonna make hip-hop music if your attitude is "F*ck hip-hop music"...

Why be part of a culture that you apparently despise so much... No one told you you had to be a part of it... S0 get out of it if you don't like it...

Seems straight forward to me...
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By binger0 Fri Sep 03, 2004 6:45 am
get a lil older chief then well talk, ur youngin ignorance is shining again. I dont take cats like u serious. U go to ur lil shows and whatever and have a good time. As for me quiting? well thats crazy talk. I said i dont like whats goin on in hip hop now. But im not even gonna defend what i say to you casue u are a child. Ur still in high school right? how u gonna come and tell cats what is this and that when u just learned it like a year ago? Cmon now. U think u are the voice of hip hop, but ur just a lil punk. Go head and call me some more names now if it makes u feel better. One day maybe ull grow up and humble out instaed of arguing and pushin ur opinions on people and tellin them whats right and wrong casue u read elemental. Just a frustrated lil boy tryin to be a man. sad shi*

By elmacaco Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:19 am
Hey Bing where do you stand on the question?

Matt, Age is a ****, don't bow down to it, but definatly respect it. Things are never black and white.
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By MattMatiks PG Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:30 am
binger0 wrote:get a lil older chief then well talk, ur youngin ignorance is shining again. I dont take cats like u serious. U go to ur lil shows and whatever and have a good time. As for me quiting? well thats crazy talk. I said i dont like whats goin on in hip hop now. But im not even gonna defend what i say to you casue u are a child. Ur still in high school right? how u gonna come and tell cats what is this and that when u just learned it like a year ago? Cmon now. U think u are the voice of hip hop, but ur just a lil punk. Go head and call me some more names now if it makes u feel better. One day maybe ull grow up and humble out instaed of arguing and pushin ur opinions on people and tellin them whats right and wrong casue u read elemental. Just a frustrated lil boy tryin to be a man. sad shi*


I'm goin to Drexel... That's a University... Am I goin too fast for you???

College another words... Although if you had the intelligence to realize that I was 18 and that means out of high school you'd realize that...

As far as a year ago (or whatever cheap attempt you took to discredit my love for the culture)... I've been in love with hip-hop since Dre and Snoop came out...

Which once again if you had the intelligence to read the posts you'd see...

This was a nice attempt to discredit my respect for the culture or even my understanding of it, but get your sh*t straight before you come with that bullsh*t...

Simply all I said to you is why are you making music for a culture that you apparently don't relate too any more... You said it yourself

I said i dont like whats goin on in hip hop now


Your swallowing you own words...

And to El... Much respect due... Things are never black and white (Sh*t thats why my name is Shades of Grey)... Cats on here think because I'm 18 or some sh*t I have no concpet of hip-hop... I prolly love this culture more than half you cats tryin to discredit me...

Hope y'all feel better by knockin me for my age when you got a twisted view of the culture yourselves...

Now go pick up the Young Buck album to cop some more drum hits... You're prolly runnin low on ideas anyways...
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By DjChronoBeats Fri Sep 03, 2004 7:47 am
yo steal all the **** you want
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By Cheech Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:16 am
elmacaco wrote:Matt, Age is a ****, don't bow down to it, but definatly respect it. Things are never black and white.


True that!

Matt I'm not trying to diss you or anything.. I was simply calling you out on that MFDoom/Def Jux being bigger than 50 bullshiz. Many so called underground heads sometimes have a distorted view of things...
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By binger0 Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:24 am
Where do i stand on the question? Bout jackin samples off your peers? I think its real wack. I had some kid over hear the one time and i was mixing all his beats down and in the middle of the beat all of a sudden i heard, questions, by lootpack, right in the middle of the hook. I almost shi* my self when i heard it. I said to him this is lootpack in disgust then he was like, damn ur the only person i know that would have got that. Im like yo u sampled off a current hip hop album, theres tons of people that know. This is alot worse then jackin a snare or kick from a current hip hop record, but i look down at that cat and his methods now. This one kid i know came here with a hot beat, then in the middle of it he just says, how u like that kick? then he said it was off biggies first album. I looked at him different after that too.

anyways to me its more of a respect thing. I think its lazy and wack and i wouldnt want people cuttin up my beats for a drum kit. I can understand why and i know that people dont really give a fuc* but say primo sampled a kick off a funk record, then i came along 5 yrs later adn jacked it, then some other kid comes down the road later and jacks me, isnt that a bit corny? i would feel like a biter then. Sampling is cool because u are using old music to make new music. U are breathing new life, just by listening to that music, into that artist's work. Its like resurecting the mood and vibe from that record 30 yrs ago into a new joint that is relevent today. That to me is crazy. To go and just bootleg this cats kits, thats kinda just taking the easy way out. U gotta do what u gotta do, but i think its kinda chessy. I will never jack my peers kits. That is seriously some wack shit in my eyes. Dont u get like parts of the melodies in the drums? haha. just some lame shit. But if thats how u get down then so do it. Its like the network that made the first reality show, then u got the knock off shows that incoperate all the lil parts from other shows, then u get the crazy wack nonsense like who wants to marry my wife, who might have a dic*, for a million dolllars, on an island shows. its just he same crap reguritated into this new shi* that is just total crap. cause non of it is original.

as for u matt.
i dont discredit hip hop or hate the indie shit. its just not appealing to me anymore. Its like teeny bopper shit, dudes cryin bout girls and emotions and all that nonsense, or how super scientifical and who got the biggest theasarus. Just not my cup of tea. I feel alot of them cats feel themselves too much. Some got real talent, but alot just have a loyal fanbase that is very close and make them hot after a while, regardless of skills. But thats my opinion. Which im entitled too. Im not gonna sit here and debate "hip hop 101" with u cause i aint got my textbook chief. There really is no rules to this game. U can respect the elders and learn the history of this s*it and this culture but it isnt written in stone. U cant sit back and preach to cats about how they are wrong and shi**en on the game and ruining it casue there is no guidelines or the "hip hop moral" police. I just say fu*k em and do what i do. The ones that are talkin on this board about jackin drums, usally got the wackest beats. there are a few exceptions, but not many :wink: . And now when i hear their beats imma just look at em different, just cause i know that *hit. but thats me. So dont get all ur panites in a knot and get on my case, but thats just what i think. Im not sayin ya wrong but in my eyes ya corny :P
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By binger0 Fri Sep 03, 2004 8:28 am
Cheech wrote:
elmacaco wrote:Matt, Age is a ****, don't bow down to it, but definatly respect it. Things are never black and white.


True that!

Matt I'm not trying to diss you or anything.. I was simply calling you out on that MFDoom/Def Jux being bigger than 50 bullshiz. Many so called underground heads sometimes have a distorted view of things...


exactly cheech. this is what im tryin to say. These are there idols and they want to believe that they are better then this and that and are so real and would never sell out for money and all that. People can still get paid and keep there respect. Its just how much u want to get paid and how long u want to wait to get there. If u hold out and negotiate the right contract and deal u can be very succesful. but that could take 15 yrs.

By StevenMek Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:05 am
Man this thread got long...lol
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By Cheech Fri Sep 03, 2004 10:12 am
Man... There's MILLIONS of untapped records out there full of basslines and melodies. Why would you want to take one from dr dre?

If you have to have the same bassline then at least find the original record it came from and sample that.

By 44GunnzUpNukka Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:34 pm
MattMatiks PG wrote:
44GunnzUpNukka wrote::arrow: Im new to the board and all..but when i read some of the stuff da kid mattmatikz say'z...iz bias! underground, mainstream...who carez....just stay tru to what ya do, make musik! hardcore, horrocore, dsouth, midwest, underground, blah blah....hiphop supposed to be diff. if erbody sounded da same...**** would be duller dan it iz!

and If ya ask me....any underground head would love to have mainstream success! and Any mainstream cat wouldve love to have dat underground(the streets) success....somethingl like 50 did when he came out! 50 captured both..he had da streets...adn mainstream talking....! its like and 1 and da NBA!

but...w/e...i like both....so ..i aint riding on either...im on da fence...


Actually read my posts next time... I said I listen to good music... While I consider myself more underground I listen to plenty of mainstream cats... I just don't relate to a lot of what's goin on in the mainstream... But at the same time I don't listen to something just because it's "underground" and automatically not listen cause it's "mainstream"...

Read before you respond next time...



i read before i respond..i still think ya biaz.....!

bingerO hit dat shit on da head! judge hiphop from ya own perspective.......erbody viewz aint da same.......

And dis topic iz old..ah bunch of ****** arguring back and forth......when at the end of the day.....each of you...iz gonna go back to ya "homes"!

but..w/e......topic old.....

P.S.-Im dying to hear what.....what matt'z bringin to da table! beatz, rhymez, w/e!....lemme hear something.....
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By Cheech Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:38 pm
44GunnzUpNukka wrote:And dis topic iz old..ah bunch of ****** arguring back and forth......


I'm actually white :D

By 44GunnzUpNukka Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:45 pm
lol...ahhh..well...im black.....but i meant ******..in a general sense....!


P.S..in da hood erbody nigggaz...lmao..trust me ..fam!


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