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By W. Steele Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:46 am
So I'm about to drop some loot on a new .pgm and these are my choices . I'm thinking :

Reason 5 because they added a bunch of dope features and I'm already comfy w/ 4 .

Ableton because everyone in the world says I'm missing out and I want to know why .

Maschine . . . strictly because it has the SP-1200 mode and it sounds pretty damn impressive for software .

What do you guys think ?
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By konc3pt Thu Jun 24, 2010 1:57 pm
if you comfortable with reason switching to ableton would be set back imo...also you can download fully functional 30 day trial version of live before you spend your hard earned money. and I dont think buying maschine cuz of sp1200 emulation is a good investment.

but if you really want to get into ableton you can pick up Live Intro for 99 download or 130 hard copy...then upgrade if you decide it's something you can benefit from...this way you'd still have cash left over to either pick up reason or maschine.
By Clint Thu Jun 24, 2010 3:14 pm
We already have dedicated threads for all the choices you've mentioned.

Reason 5 viewtopic.php?f=11&t=130858

Ableton Live Roll Call viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77616

Maschine 1.5 viewtopic.php?f=11&t=127534&start=0

There you will find detailed discussion on each potential purchase.

I think we all know by now that each has a different set of tools and one isn't available yet to my knowledge?

You will have to decide which meets your needs and why, NOBODY CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.

I'll let this one run for now, see where it goes...
By goldslum Thu Jun 24, 2010 6:22 pm
yo man... if you learn what ableton has to offer it's like two things in one: a daw and a live application.. i can hook you up with some tutorials i downloaded if you need... youtube and tutorials will have you feeling comfortable on there in about a week or two. what i like about live is how well it communicates with midi. it's built to be versatile, it doesn't have one straight forward application, it's however you use it. i'm sure reason 5 has a lot of great improvements but at the end of the day ableton is IT. :shock:

you might as well do yourself the favor and learn it as soon as possible. live 8 is near perfect, it's only going to get better, jump on the bandwagon now and you will not regret it. you'll be saying the same shtt i'm saying to you :lol:


don't say goldslum didn't warn you.


man another thing i love about it is you can work on your own songs/albums and whenever you're ready, you can be working on your live set with the hot shtt you just got done making!!! on the same program! ! !


i could keep going... i just drank a red bull.

if you use traktor too (coming from the dj realm) ableton works great with it. you can use ableton for all it's dj effects and your plugins along side traktor. i use ableton alone though. the simplicity is what draws me to it. it's got a medium learning curve and once you get to know it you realize its VERY user intuitive. can't beat those crazy german dance software engineers.
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By W. Steele Thu Jun 24, 2010 9:33 pm
clint246clint wrote:We already have dedicated threads for all the choices you've mentioned.

Reason 5 viewtopic.php?f=11&t=130858

Ableton Live Roll Call viewtopic.php?f=5&t=77616

Maschine 1.5 viewtopic.php?f=11&t=127534&start=0

There you will find detailed discussion on each potential purchase.

I think we all know by now that each has a different set of tools and one isn't available yet to my knowledge?

You will have to decide which meets your needs and why, NOBODY CAN DO THAT FOR YOU.

I'll let this one run for now, see where it goes...


Whoa . . . :shock: . Did you not get laid this week Clint :lol: ?

Sorry if I just wanted some input from the boys w/o having to dig through about 50 pages of 20% talking about the product and the other 80% people hating on it or defending why it's cool .
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By nod records Fri Jun 25, 2010 2:16 am
My vote would be for Ableton Live. I've been using in for years, since version 3. It's come a long way and once you learn it, it is a very powerful tool.

I do LIVE Ustream broadcasts using Ableton. You should stop by and check it out sometime. I use Ableton like and MPC or ASR-10.

Once they tweak drum rack in Ableton and make it like an MPC, it's over!!!
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By Esquilo Fri Jun 25, 2010 5:19 pm
nod records wrote:My vote would be for Ableton Live. I've been using in for years, since version 3. It's come a long way and once you learn it, it is a very powerful tool.

I do LIVE Ustream broadcasts using Ableton. You should stop by and check it out sometime. I use Ableton like and MPC or ASR-10.

Once they tweak drum rack in Ableton and make it like an MPC, it's over!!!

+100
It's got the best workflow of any program I have used.

I got Reason 5 after I had ableton 7 for a year and sold it because I just didnt like the flow. I thought all that wiring stuff was weird. So it seems to me like the flow should get easier if you switch to ableton. But definitely try the demo first if your not sure. You can learn a lot about the program in a month if you dedicate time to it.
By FredFrank Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:53 am
first I'd say **** a computer, that being said I say maschine first hands down, then ableton Live, they are the best combination in existence today. In other words no two apps work so wonderfully well together, but get maschine first
if you know your way around an mpc it's going to blow your mind.................if you possess the type of mind that can
be blown by computer shit.
By Clint Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:42 am
W. Steele wrote:Whoa . . . :shock: . Did you not get laid this week Clint :lol: ?

Sorry if I just wanted some input from the boys w/o having to dig through about 50 pages of 20% talking about the product and the other 80% people hating on it or defending why it's cool .


I go on a mad thread locking spree when I don't get laid, you should know by now...