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By konc3pt Tue Jun 29, 2010 1:40 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote: The main advantage of going with M-Audio that I see is the ability to use them with DAW's other than Pro Tools and assortment of interfaces. But larger assortment doesn't necessarily mean better.


maybe im reading too much into it, but digi interface will work with other DAW's outside of Pro Tools
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By DJ Hellfire Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:19 am
konc3pt wrote:
DJ Hellfire wrote: The main advantage of going with M-Audio that I see is the ability to use them with DAW's other than Pro Tools and assortment of interfaces. But larger assortment doesn't necessarily mean better.


maybe im reading too much into it, but digi interface will work with other DAW's outside of Pro Tools



Nah, they will only work with other DAW's rewired into Pro Tools. And the only full feature DAW I know of that rewires into Pro Tools is Reaper, and maybe Ableton. But you can use synths like Reason or SampleTank, as well as Ableton I believe. I don't believe it will work with Reaper or Logic in standalone.
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By DJ Hellfire Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:47 am
Drunk! Here is what you do. Go to Sam Ash or Guitar Center and get a pair of balanced 1/4" TRS cables. Should be no more than $7 each. You are going to go from the main ASR outs to the "Line (TRS)" inputs on the Mbox. Don't use DI. DI is for if you have a live guitar or some shit! On the Mbox, Input 1 is the left channel, and input 2 is the right channel.

Now, on the front of the Mbox, you want the little input buttons set to Mic (green LED under "MIC"). You can leave Phantom power turned off unless you hook up a condenser mic that requires it. You can leave the "Pad" switches turned off. This basically reduces the input by 20dB to help with clipping. If you are clipping, try turning down the ASR or input gain knobs on the Mbox first. Speaking of the gain knobs on the Mbox, I always left mine all the way down and increased the input volume directly from the MPC. Feel free to adjust these to your liking. Just make sure you aren't clipping coming in!

Now the mix knob is handy. It works pretty much just like a crossfader on a DJ mixer. When it's full left, it only the sound that is coming into the Mbox; in your case the ASR. When it's full right, it only plays sound that is in your Pro Tools session. And in the middle, you guess it, plays both input signal and what's coming out of the computer through the ASIO driver. ASIO is the driver for the Mbox to be used as a soundcard. This is not the driver for your regular computer sounds like iTunes, internet, mouse click, etc. This is only for programs that will use the ASIO driver to output through the Mbox; like Pro Tools, Reason, etc. So the mix knob will play any sounds the use the ASIO driver, which in your case will most likely only be Pro Tools.

One last thing! Tracking. With the ASR, you can actually record two tracks at a time. The track is to record in mono for certain sounds. For example, normal a kick and a snare don't each need to be output to a stereo track in your DAW. You can record them to mono tracks. So you'd just start by creating two new mono tracks in Pro Tools. Set the first track to input 1 and the second track to input 2. Name the first track "Kick", name the second track "Snare". Go into the ASR, pan the kick hard left and pan the snare hard right. This will send the kick out of input 1 (L) only and record to the first track, and send the snare out of input 2 (R) and record to the second track at the same time! Then just repeat for each sound. Some sounds you may want to record in stereo though, like the main sample, depending on how you sampled it or how the stereo image of the actual sound is.

That's the very basics. But there is a lot more you need to pick up! Good luck! :wink:
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By The Grublet Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:11 am
Im sayin tho... asrs suck at following time code.

anyone disagree
?
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By DJ Hellfire Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:18 pm
The Grublet wrote:Im sayin tho... asrs suck at following time code.

anyone disagree
?



boxcutter butta wrote:asr to get that thing accurate you need to dump that midi data
then sequence it from pro tools



Never used one, so I don't know. But there are ways around it. What you can do is in the ASR, make a one bar sequence the same tempo as the main sequence and lay down a simple 1/8 note hi hat. Set the tempo in Pro Tools. Then just record that hi hat in front of every track from the main sequence. Doesn't matter if none of the tracks line up. That's the point of the hi hat. Just record them close to the beginning of the session. So in Pro Tools, each track will have a hi hat before the real instrument comes in. In Pro Tools, there is a feature called "Tab To Transient". Just activate that button, click in front of the first hi hat and press Tab. This will bring the edit cursor directly to the first hi hat transient. Then separate the blank space before the hat starts. Do this same thing for all the instruments/tracks. Then, making sure to be in grid mode, drag all the audio regions to the beginning of bar 1. Now all tracks will be lined up and in sync just as accurate as midi. Then you can erase the hi hat from each track.
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By konc3pt Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:43 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote:
konc3pt wrote:
DJ Hellfire wrote: The main advantage of going with M-Audio that I see is the ability to use them with DAW's other than Pro Tools and assortment of interfaces. But larger assortment doesn't necessarily mean better.


maybe im reading too much into it, but digi interface will work with other DAW's outside of Pro Tools



Nah, they will only work with other DAW's rewired into Pro Tools. And the only full feature DAW I know of that rewires into Pro Tools is Reaper, and maybe Ableton. But you can use synths like Reason or SampleTank, as well as Ableton I believe. I don't believe it will work with Reaper or Logic in standalone.



I bought digi 002 rack and run ableton in standalone no problem, homeboy runs fruit loops and reason standalone off digi 03
By MCL Thu Jul 01, 2010 1:58 pm
DJ Hellfire wrote:

Nah, they will only work with other DAW's rewired into Pro Tools.



Nah - All Digi hardware is supported by Core Audio on a Mac - and whatever the PC equivalent is - so you can run any DAW through it - Ableton, Logic, Reaper, Reason, - or indeed any audio related app - Tracktor, Audacity etc etc etc.... all work fine in standalone.

EDIT: - for the record, Itunes etc will work through the Digi driver as well (on a Mac anyway,)

Being restricted to rewire supported apps in order to use Digi hardware would be mad
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By DJ Hellfire Thu Jul 01, 2010 2:09 pm
konc3pt wrote:
DJ Hellfire wrote:
konc3pt wrote:maybe im reading too much into it, but digi interface will work with other DAW's outside of Pro Tools



Nah, they will only work with other DAW's rewired into Pro Tools. And the only full feature DAW I know of that rewires into Pro Tools is Reaper, and maybe Ableton. But you can use synths like Reason or SampleTank, as well as Ableton I believe. I don't believe it will work with Reaper or Logic in standalone.



I bought digi 002 rack and run ableton in standalone no problem, homeboy runs fruit loops and reason standalone off digi 03



Yeah, I wasn't sure about Ableton. I use Reason and Sampletank in standalone. Wasn't sure if FL or others worked like that as well.
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By alpha80 Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:30 am
konc3pt wrote:digi 002's seem to be real cheap now days...I seen them on cl for as low as 3 bills
Right...and when you get more paper you can send it to Black Lion and get it to sound as good as an HD system.
Latency will never compare...but hey...we're not recording live bands with each of em wearing headphones.
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By Explicit- Wed Jul 07, 2010 5:26 am
Yo Drunkmonkey go with a MBox2 package.

Thats what Im working with. I also enjoy the huge community of people that use ProTools and the same interface. So when you have questions people are always there to help.

Easy to install and setup aswell.