How do you go about your notes and scales?

mr_debauch wrote:

happyhour wrote:

punchdrunk wrote:there are a bunch of free plugins out there that will do this, but if you use reaper you can use the ReaControlMIDI plugin to do this.

So it's like a "tuner" plugin? I'll have to look into it.

I don't know why I started over thinking whether or not **** was in tune. I do go by ear. But I have run into loops where I've been like what tuning is this?!

yeah man, I never looked at it that way... until recently I stumbled apon something asking me what key my song was in... yeah, the entire song.... maybe some music is like that where the ... "root note" is the same? is that what they mean when they ask what key the entire song is in?

Kind of. Usually the root note of the scale your song starts in is the key your song is in. But songs are often made of chord progressions, meaning multiple scales built around one. And that one scale and it's root is the "key" your songs is in.

briskisgoodforu wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:

happyhour wrote:
So it's like a "tuner" plugin? I'll have to look into it.

I don't know why I started over thinking whether or not **** was in tune. I do go by ear. But I have run into loops where I've been like what tuning is this?!

yeah man, I never looked at it that way... until recently I stumbled apon something asking me what key my song was in... yeah, the entire song.... maybe some music is like that where the ... "root note" is the same? is that what they mean when they ask what key the entire song is in?

Kind of. Usually the root note of the scale your song starts in is the key your song is in. But songs are often made of chord progressions, meaning multiple scales built around one. And that one scale and it's root is the "key" your songs is in.

that was my guess... thanks for the clear up.... I never really had to think about that question before until recently.

Em.p.cee.j wrote:

happyhour wrote:Lately, I've become paranoid about sampling and where the pitch is on the turntable when I go to grab the sample and it's because I don't want to throw it off so I then can't tune keys or whatever to play along with the sample.

I still don't understand how those songs with sped up samples work out in the end. Like if you have a c note and you speed up the record to 45 is it still a c note? What about if you sample at 45 -8pitch? What key is that??

I don't really see the problem. You can tune the sample in the MPC or just your module in the master settings (assuming you use hardware).

But, no. A C note wouldn't be a C note if the record is sped up to 45. The same way it wouldn't be a C note if you sped it up on the MP or used 16 levels. The same principles apply.

I thought speeding up a sample from 33 1/3 to 45 rpm does tune up the sample for 5 semi tones... is this correct?
Also: how many % of pitch would be equal to 1 semitone??

We are sayin the same thing. Increase in speed=Increase in pitch. Not sure by how much exactly.

Em.p.cee.j wrote:We are sayin the same thing. Increase in speed=Increase in pitch. Not sure by how much exactly.

Yes...i did understand you. I just wonder if anybody here knows the precise pitch values for tuning a record up or down...sometimes this would be handy...
i estimate it´s 5 semitones from 33 1/3 to 45 rpm and about 6-7% pitch would be 1 semitone, but i´m not sure about it...

peace