Limiters: Waves L3 Tutorial?

Hey guys I have the L3 16 Multimaximizer, L3 LL Multimaximer and the L3 LL Ultramaximer...

I have no idea how to use them. Are there any tutorials out there?

Also whats the difference on all three? I have checked their website but Im new to this so when I just see all these words I havent heard of and see numbers next to these words I have no idea what they mean.

Im currently wrapping up my beat tape and I just want to give my beats a bit of a boost and make them louder. Em I in the right direction here?

Thanks everyone.

I use the L1, L2, L3... but basically the L1.


As far as I know, they are about the same.

The multimaximizers mean you have compression, and an EQ in one plug... and a limiter.

I try to use them sparingly as they do color the sound of the mix.


Try just adding it to the master bus, and just trim down the threshold value until you hear a slight difference in the tone... then back off a little.

then, gain up the output until its loud (but not crazy loud) just barely enough to get your levels up a little bit...

then since you probably hear a slightly different "color" to your mix, take the time to adjust the EQ to compensate... i find all waves eq's sound better when you cut a frequency instead of boost it. (personal preference).


keep in mind, your mixes don't have to be through the rafters with compression and volume... they are just stereo mixes... it is better to have some kind of cohesive blend with the track than to try to make it "ready for iTunes".

thats what I do anyway.


the more I use waves... the less I am impressed.

it seems like they are quite "resonant" and "ringy", which may be the NEW COOL.


I'm not that artsy.

I found this in another thread. Some help.

cooocooo1 wrote:and to those who have no idea what rms signifies its the average power level of the track.

To find the rms power of the track highlight the track in wavelab and click on the analysis tab> loudness> make sure "rms" is checked and hit analyse...

the number youre lookin for is the "average" level...

lets say, for example, it says the average rms level is -17.5db what you want to do is bring that up to somewhere between -12 and -10 to be on par with commercial tracks that you hear on your favorite hip hop cd's. So what you'd want to do is set the L1 limiter out ceiling to -0.1db and the threshold to -5.5 to -6.5db and youll end up with an rms somewhere in the area of -12db...

there is, of course, soooo much more to all of this but for your basic loudness matching this should get you headed in the right direction...

I digs using the L3 ultramax on the main buss. Works wonders for what I need it to.

Hey thanks Grublet. You gave me a bit more insight.

I just have to continue messing with it.

What I usually do is set all the tracks to one master track. I then higher/ lower the volume on the master till it gets to the point where its loudest but doesnt clip. From there I add the L3 plugin on the master... From there Im lost.

So from all these 3:

L3 16 Multimaximizer, L3 LL Multimaximer and the L3 LL Ultramaximer

Which would you say is best for what Im trying to do?
I was thinking the L3 LL Multimaximer and the L3 LL Ultramaximer

I just stick to the L2 and use it as a limiter/loudness maximiser. I was never that blown away with the L3.

COZ..

Cosign.

I usually find less is more.


I think about it this way: any plug adds math.

Gain adds math.

Everything you do adds math to the sound you have. Some add math very transparently (track gain) while others add math more colored... gain on a 10 band eq or compressor.


The L1,2,3,max,ultramax are all the same math equations... some just have more variables. the less you fick with the variables, the simpler the equation. If you have an area of your track that NEEDS a eq adjustment, then its there for you. if you NEED to compress your entire mix slightly... then its there..

best to leave it off if you don't NEED it.

Try these:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwoSP2CN ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCiSgj76 ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8GzXfSp ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEpOAWqL ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3Q7I6dw ... re=related

Thanks fam. I never thought about checking the L1 or L2 tutorials.

I think I got all the information I was looking for thanks to everyone.

Gotta learn from these vids now.

hey if you want one more to check out i've been watching a lot of webinars from waves and they have one on the L3 - http://www.waves.com/content.aspx?id=5871#prev_webinars

@ DJ Hellfire: Those first two vids helped alot. Thanks fam.

@ Gomez: I had no idea they held webinars. Dope. Thanks for the info.

I haven't done any real comparisons and I haven't needed to use those often, but in my experience thus far... the ultra seemed to do the trick and helped give that boost.

I know what you mean by being not so impressed the longer you use waves, but man... compared to a lot of other plugs it is very good. While it does colour the sound depending on the plug, it seems to do it less badly then some of the other plugs out there. A fine example is with the reverb plug... you can hear the colouring real easy with that. Depending on the thing I am reverbifying, it seems to often colour the sound at the right note almost...

mr_debauch wrote:reverbifying

Is that even a word??

Coz wrote:

mr_debauch wrote:reverbifying

Is that even a word??

well you know what it means even if webster doesn't.. lmao