Share your knowledge on these two classic MPCs
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By PattyMacAttakk Fri Jul 30, 2010 5:54 am
Does a stock MPC 60 come with any preloaded sounds?

If not, do people just get sounds from records like snares, kicks, hand claps, etc. and then save them on to floppys?

I've seen places like samplekings.com & ebay offer drum packs on floppys.. Were those drum pack floppys available when the MPC 60 first came out, or did people just grab sounds straight from records or from live music and make their own drum packs?

Thanks
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By mr_debauch Fri Jul 30, 2010 6:16 am
PattyMacAttakk wrote:Does a stock MPC 60 come with any preloaded sounds?

If not, do people just get sounds from records like snares, kicks, hand claps, etc. and then save them on to floppys?

I've seen places like samplekings.com & ebay offer drum packs on floppys.. Were those drum pack floppys available when the MPC 60 first came out, or did people just grab sounds straight from records or from live music and make their own drum packs?

Thanks



you got it man... okay, if you are lazy you can go get those kits or if you aren't at that point of sampling so intensively... or even to start out. But for sure, the traditional thing to do is find breaks on records and sample each drum sound in the break. Like when the rest of the instruments stop during the song and the drummer does a sort of solo... it gives you a good opportunity. Or even when the drummer is counting in to begin the song etc.


I would not suggest you buying those kits because you have no way of knowing if they are trash... and if you did have a way to hear them first I suggest sampling that into your mpc so you dont gotta pay. Or download sounds from the internet on places like lime wire or pirate bay... That should hold you over until you get the ball rolling with a turn table and records.


Just remember, to build a good sample library takes a lot of time, work, searching (digging), editing, and all that.... It for sure pays off if you take that time... but it wont do shit if beat making is nothing more then a halloween costume.

Good luck... and if you feel the definite need to pay for samples... get the ones at mpc-samples (the fourth button at the top of this forum) because that store supports this forum in a manner of speaking.
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By PattyMacAttakk Fri Jul 30, 2010 2:36 pm
Dope, I already have my turntable and records so I guess I just gotta figure out how to sample the breaks in and chop em up correctly. Thanks for the help again, I really appreciate it. :)
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By mr_debauch Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:44 pm
yep, all you need is a turntable preamp... dj mixers have them, the korg kaoss pad 2 has one, or you can buy them stand alone for cheap. I believe the 60 has one mono line input... which is not the same as phono. You probably know all that though, but just incase.
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By PattyMacAttakk Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:08 pm
I have a Vestax PMC-05 PRO III vca. Would that work?

I actually don't know, what is the mono line input for? and whats the difference between mono and phono?

Thanks
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By mr_debauch Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:44 pm
yeah perfect, that will work!

phono is the output from a turn table or record player. a phono signal needs a slight bit of amplification for it to work on a line level connection but when you run it into that mixer's phono input (record player input) it does that for you.


MONO is one single channel VS stereo which has 2 channels (left and right). The mpc60 has only a single input so it plays the same exact thing on both sides... every other MPC can do stereo recording for samples but it takes up double the memory (ram) space (sample time).


just run your turn table in the mixer and keep the pan centered and run only one side into the mpc.
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By peterpiper Fri Jul 30, 2010 4:48 pm
PattyMacAttakk wrote:I have a Vestax PMC-05 PRO III vca. Would that work?

I actually don't know, what is the mono line input for? and whats the difference between mono and phono?

Thanks



compare mono and phono = compare apples and oranges

the opposite of mono is stereo. Stereo is a 2 channel signal (left & right), mono is a 1 channel signal.

"phono" is an input model with a special amp/eq stage compared to "line" or "mic". "phono" inputs are used for amplifieing and eqing the turntable signal and they are part of any dj mixer so you dont have to worry about it (you got a vestax mixer)

In case of the MPC60 with its mono input you are only be able to sample ONE of the 2 channels of the dj mixers stereo signal. Either left OR right.
If you want to sample both channels you'll have to mix them together. Either by another mixer (non dj mixer). or you can do a workaround with your Vestax by connecting the turntable this way:

left cable from the turntable -> left input of CH1 of the dj mixer
right cable from the turntable -> left input of CH2 of the dj mixer
left rec out of the dj mixer -> mono input of the MPC60

you will have toturn up both channels on the dj mixer and put the xfader in the middle position.

peace