Technical questions for the MPC2000xl and the MPC2000
Bymember_5949kfk50e0d3 Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:38 am
mr_debauch wrote:yeah that is what I did.

cost:

$0.99
+
broken floppy drive aka $0.00
+
a bit of electrical tape to fasten it aka $0.01
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=
about a dollar aka half the cost of a cup of coffee.


whats the 99 cents for? you tape change in there to give it weight and stability?
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By JUKE 179r Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:46 am
I'm digging your topics Grub. I too like tearing things apart to see how they work and make them better. I'm done with my 2000XL mods though I got some smaller mods to do on it but that's for later on. I have been working lately on my MV8000 by removing the floppy drive and trying to get the card reader and the HD to play nice together. As of now, it's been one or the other I got to work but not both working at the same time.
I haven't gave up and accepted failure yet! :lol:
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By mr_debauch Wed Aug 04, 2010 5:48 am
Grenozh wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:yeah that is what I did.

cost:

$0.99
+
broken floppy drive aka $0.00
+
a bit of electrical tape to fasten it aka $0.01
______________________________________
=
about a dollar aka half the cost of a cup of coffee.


whats the 99 cents for? you tape change in there to give it weight and stability?


oh, no no.... the $0.99 cents is what the CF card reader/adapter costed to buy (including shipping)

basically I removed the mechanism from the floppy drive and places the card reader like in that pic that was posted. Then the back end of the drive I used some of the random metal shit from the guts of the floppy drive to make it level and even inside the "case" and used tape so it wouldn't short anything since the guts were metal. then I used some more tape to fasten it down and it was all good. it was solid, and I realized after a while of having the card reader installed that I never even needed to take the card out and I had a 1 gig I think.... which is more then plenty. I didn't transfer things from the computer anyways because it is a sampler... and also cause my computer doesn't have a turntable built into it.
By sonakasos Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:37 pm
mr_debauch wrote:
Grenozh wrote:
mr_debauch wrote:yeah that is what I did.

cost:

$0.99
+
broken floppy drive aka $0.00
+
a bit of electrical tape to fasten it aka $0.01
______________________________________
=
about a dollar aka half the cost of a cup of coffee.


whats the 99 cents for? you tape change in there to give it weight and stability?


oh, no no.... the $0.99 cents is what the CF card reader/adapter costed to buy (including shipping)

basically I removed the mechanism from the floppy drive and places the card reader like in that pic that was posted. Then the back end of the drive I used some of the random metal **** from the guts of the floppy drive to make it level and even inside the "case" and used tape so it wouldn't short anything since the guts were metal. then I used some more tape to fasten it down and it was all good. it was solid, and I realized after a while of having the card reader installed that I never even needed to take the card out and I had a 1 gig I think.... which is more then plenty. I didn't transfer things from the computer anyways because it is a sampler... and also cause my computer doesn't have a turntable built into it.



Is there a way you can show photos of what you did or is it too late since it's already in your Mpc? Lol
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By jaxxkg Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:50 pm
So about 3-4 years ago this great ide/atapi drive came out for the mpc it was an SD/CF combination.. then about 3 years into its lifetime with me, it failed to read on the mpc anymore.. so I had to break down and buy one of them cf readers from mpc stuff as I didn't do much research and needed a quick fix as this was messing with my work production ..

http://img827.imageshack.us/i/p1000704.jpg/
Notice how it was a regular hdd drive ide power( i have a converted cable for it to fit the mpc

http://img823.imageshack.us/i/p1000701e.jpg
top of the inside, SD Card side

http://img576.imageshack.us/i/p1000703.jpg/
front side where cards go showing both sd card(top) cf card(bottom)

now there is a few questions I would like to ask in theory..

say I put a 2.5 HDD in this box and get a converter for the pins-- could the power from the mpc be enough to turn it on--(as Grub has done) would I have to add a killswitch per se for the HDD(to save its shelf(mpc)life????would the mpc recognize it? could it use all of its space?

Now my second question is, the mpc just stopped recognizing it, I can hook it up and see if it powers, now if it does, what would cause the mpc to stop recognizing it in the first place? I jiggled the cord, took it out, made sure everything was plugged in right.. Could it be a fuse? nothing on the board looks burnt or damaged..
By scsiforsamplers.com Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:17 pm
The Grublet wrote:exactly... although I know SCSIforsamplers is on to something that I am wondering about... SCSI to ATA bridges are expensive still... and for the units that they sell card readers for, they are all operating on standard wide SCSI protocol... meaning they either have a self-built Bridge adapter, or they have made card readers that accept SCSI protocol and have Device ID jumpers.


HMMM..


$125 to find out... unless someone wants to post a pic?
:angry:


A picture of what? What do you want to know about our CF-CARD drives? You ever consider just asking me?
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By The Grublet Wed Aug 04, 2010 11:43 pm
LMAO. sorry. scsi... been on my own peel (still probably going to order yours at some point for my ASR anyway, but just sprund for 3.5os on my 3k. (gotta ration my gear lust as best as possible)

Is your card reader 50 pin? or is it involving a 50 to 40 bridge adapter inline.



say I put a 2.5 HDD in this box and get a converter for the pins-- could the power from the mpc be enough to turn it on--(as Grub has done) would I have to add a killswitch per se for the HDD(to save its shelf(mpc)life????would the mpc recognize it? could it use all of its space?



The MPC has both 5v and 12 v leads off the motherboard, each with its own ground... so essentially, you can power whatever you want.

If it spins a 68pin hard drive, im assuming it has enough juice to power just about whatever you choose.
By scsiforsamplers.com Thu Aug 05, 2010 12:28 am
Grubworm, if you have Valixi 3.5 on your MPC3000 now, I can make you a good deal on a Spyrus MCDISK-2 drive, all ready for internal installation with
our custom black, red or beige bezel.

I have the install kit and the drive at a really good price for any mpc-forums.com member. Just let me know when you get
some spare beans and I'll hook you up. :P
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By The Grublet Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:02 am
Wordemup.

Is that the PCMCIAto CF model? or is that the dank new new.

My biggest thing is, I have way too many flopppys around... I either need to just go one external CF, or I need to have CFs in all of my ish.

I would Ideally be able to save a sound on the eps16+ and immediately jump the sound to my ASR... or just be able to use chicken.sys on my pc.. back up banks, songs...


dunno... the only reason for my lack of Ensoniq use EVER, is storage after im done.


its sad.

needs to be rectified.
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By The Grublet Thu Aug 05, 2010 1:10 am
I'm digging your topics Grub.


just saw this..

at least one person realizes that eventhough im a dick, i make SOME sense.
By sonakasos Thu Aug 05, 2010 3:27 am
scsiforsamplers.com wrote:Grubworm, if you have Valixi 3.5 on your MPC3000 now, I can make you a good deal on a Spyrus MCDISK-2 drive, all ready for internal installation with
our custom black, red or beige bezel.

I have the install kit and the drive at a really good price for any mpc-forums.com member. Just let me know when you get
some spare beans and I'll hook you up. :P


Would I be able to get a deal for an internal CF Card Reader for my Mpc 2000xl? :mrgreen:
By scsiforsamplers.com Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:22 pm
The Grublet wrote:
I'm digging your topics Grub.


just saw this..

at least one person realizes that eventhough im a dick, i make SOME sense.


Heck, I'm sure more than one person realized you are a dick!

Just kiddin, bro - you left yourself wide open for that one.
By scsiforsamplers.com Thu Aug 05, 2010 10:24 pm
sonakasos wrote:
scsiforsamplers.com wrote:Grubworm, if you have Valixi 3.5 on your MPC3000 now, I can make you a good deal on a Spyrus MCDISK-2 drive, all ready for internal installation with
our custom black, red or beige bezel.

I have the install kit and the drive at a really good price for any mpc-forums.com member. Just let me know when you get
some spare beans and I'll hook you up. :P


Would I be able to get a deal for an internal CF Card Reader for my Mpc 2000xl? :mrgreen:


Yes, you can, my good man. I'm always offering deals for my friends from mpc-forums.com. Just another reason why hanging out here is a good idea.