Chopping - inside the MPC or external via ReCycle etc.?!

Yo.

Due to the (handy) feature on some of the newer (Nukai ) MPC models i always find myself (precisely) chopping inside ReCycle and then transferring stuff to the MPC.

Damn, i even sample stuff into the PC before and then use Ableton's great time stretching engine for almost all the breaks, loops etc.

Well, it definitely works and everything is synced, chopped on some high level. Workflow is another question, though. I'm basically just using the sequencer of the MPC i guess...

Therefore i recently start to get the feeling, that i should (or want to) do all this stuff inside the MP.

I know that this should just be my personal decision - however i'm keen to know how you folks go about it.
Did your chopping skills develop an enjoyable workflow or do you guys use external tools, as well?

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

since i use the 500, i always chop inside sound forge, then copy/paste to my 500

BUT

if i had a newer version MPC, with its own waveform chopping tool, i would ONLY chop inside the MPC

DPM wrote:since i use the 500, i always chop inside sound forge, then copy/paste to my 500

BUT

if i had a newer version MPC, with its own waveform chopping tool, i would ONLY chop inside the MPC

Funny you say that. I have a 500 and a 2500. I love chopping samples on the 500, on the 2500 i'm not using my ears enough and look at the screen/waveform too much (you can't always chop exactly on point, sometimes that little bit "off" is where the "sweet spot" is... and don't get me started about autochop, i won't go there). The 500 has teached me to use my ears.

DPM wrote:since i use the 500, i always chop inside sound forge, then copy/paste to my 500

BUT

if i had a newer version MPC, with its own waveform chopping tool, i would ONLY chop inside the MPC

is there a way to set chops in soundforge like in recycle? Do you set markers for your chops or do you just drag each chop to a new window and then export?

i have recycle but barely use it, my its the mouse but my mp feels more natural, chop, paste to pad and arrange, right there no loading diff. programs and what not

FrankieMonroe wrote:i have recycle but barely use it, my its the mouse but my mp feels more natural, chop, paste to pad and arrange, right there no loading diff. programs and what not

Im about to get the Vailixi OS for my 3000 so Ill be chopping inside the 3000 from now on. The only thing I really want is the ability for the MPC3000 to be able to do pad cutoff without having to manually assign them...

Thanks for the input!

Chopping in the MP using JJ takes some serious beating. Recycle also doesn't give you NDC last time I checked.

As of lately I've been using both, to be honest I move way faster on the 1k but I think thats because I havent been using recycle that long.

MPC exclusively. It takes to long to transfer files to the computer and back. I wish JJos never got rid of the ability to chop samples using the qlinks.

jibber wrote:

DPM wrote:since i use the 500, i always chop inside sound forge, then copy/paste to my 500

BUT

if i had a newer version MPC, with its own waveform chopping tool, i would ONLY chop inside the MPC

Funny you say that. I have a 500 and a 2500. I love chopping samples on the 500, on the 2500 i'm not using my ears enough and look at the screen/waveform too much (you can't always chop exactly on point, sometimes that little bit "off" is where the "sweet spot" is... and don't get me started about autochop, i won't go there). The 500 has teached me to use my ears.

You have learned well jibbersan.

I use to use recycle alot, but now I love chopping inside the 500, not seeing the wav makes you put chops in places you never would have before.. I just got a 1000 and added jjos1 and i gotta say, it is so much faster and more fun to chop on the 1000 then recycle..

jibber wrote:

DPM wrote:since i use the 500, i always chop inside sound forge, then copy/paste to my 500

BUT

if i had a newer version MPC, with its own waveform chopping tool, i would ONLY chop inside the MPC

Funny you say that. I have a 500 and a 2500. I love chopping samples on the 500, on the 2500 i'm not using my ears enough and look at the screen/waveform too much (you can't always chop exactly on point, sometimes that little bit "off" is where the "sweet spot" is...

well there's definitely a problem if your only using your eyes to chop..

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i absolutely hated chopping on recycle. particularly having to waste pads with parts of a sample i didnt want.. and editing samples was impossible on dr.rex, i think on nnxt you could edit better but i never used nnxt for my chops..

I was just trying to figure out which way I am going to do it now. I have been using FL Studio for like 7-8 years so using Fl Slicer and Edison was easy. Now I have an MPC 2000XL and Im determined to not let it become a paperweight due to my lack of knowledge. I've been chopping in it and I cant get it to sound good. I takes me too long to chop on it and by then, I've lost my ideas. Im thinking of choppin in recycle and then bringing it over. I think it will be better for me because of what Im used to.

If any chopping is needed (very rarely, almost non-existing) it's exclusively done through soundforge then transfered back to the 4k via its ak.sys program.