Discuss the various methods you use in music production, from compressor settings to equipment type.
By youknowmysteeze22 Sun Aug 15, 2010 8:42 pm
Im a noob, but I was curious after I made my drums and I had my tempo at say 99 for example. When I add in my chops its sounds horrible. Do I have to know the tempo of the sample that I chopped up? I know it takes time but I was just trying to figure that out?
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By dabmeister Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:05 am
youknowmysteeze22 wrote:Do I have to know the tempo of the sample that I chopped up?


Yeah, if you beat match those chopped samples, it guarantees you that they'll work with your existing tempo.
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By ArKyve-31 Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:10 am
^^^+ 1, after a while you'll here the tempo, i can pitch on my turntable to 88, 70, 94 bpm's at will not sure why those speeds but its how i hear it, just practice
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By dabmeister Mon Aug 16, 2010 1:20 am
I also forgot to mention that you may need to either time stretch or expand the sample before you chop it up.

That way it'll def fit and blend like it's supposed to.

I almost exclusively take care of this through a program such as my daw (cubase/nuendo).

Never liked how the mpc handles this.
By youknowmysteeze22 Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:08 am
dabmeister wrote:
youknowmysteeze22 wrote:Do I have to know the tempo of the sample that I chopped up?


Yeah, if you beat match those chopped samples, it guarantees you that they'll work with your existing tempo.

I dont totally follow. I can bpm one chop on one pad?
By youknowmysteeze22 Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:10 am
So time stretch the sample to 93 bpm for example if thats what my drums are? Then chop it however I want and play in the chops however I want? Sorry, for the confusion. Im just trying to work threw part of the process.
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By dabmeister Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:41 am
youknowmysteeze22 wrote:So time stretch the sample to 93 bpm for example if thats what my drums are? Then chop it however I want and play in the chops however I want? Sorry, for the confusion. Im just trying to work threw part of the process.


Yeah, that's it. You'll notice how well everything blends and falls nicely in place.
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By cyrus Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:07 pm
youknowmysteeze22 wrote:So, I just gotta find a melody with the chops?


thats one way to do it. i guess the point is, there isnt one specific way to do it. sometimes you need to loop something,so yeah, finding the bpm is important. but sometimes you chopping the sample up into little pieces and at that point the bpm may not matter (sometimes it does, depends on the sample and how you chop it).

some pointers:

1.experiment
2.best producers are masters of chopping things into bits and rearranging (alchemist,dj premier,dilla)
3.best producers also jack shit and straight loop (alchemist,dj premier,dilla) - but always put it into thier context.
4.tap tempo is important tool, but not always accurate, tap the tempo, but tweak (use your ears!)
5.practice chopping stuff into small bits (learning where to chop stuff)
6.use your ears, above all, use your ears. dilla aint got that shit by not using his ears!

youtube "boondoc" and watch all his videos.
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By dabmeister Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:07 pm
cyrus wrote:bpm aint always gotta match. it depends on the sample and how you chopped it.


I'll be the first to admit that sampling is more secondary to me than it is for those that solely rely on it.

Yeah if the sample isn't dead on point, then I guess how it's chopped up and being laid out will work just as well.

Myself personally, I always try to get sh!t to fit like a glove in hand...but that's just me. :lol:
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By cyrus Mon Aug 16, 2010 3:14 pm
dabmeister wrote:
cyrus wrote:bpm aint always gotta match. it depends on the sample and how you chopped it.


I'll be the first to admit that sampling is more secondary to me than it is for those that solely rely on it.

Yeah if the sample isn't dead on point, then I guess how it's chopped up and being laid out will work just as well.

Myself personally, I always try to get sh!t to fit like a glove in hand...but that's just me. :lol:



thats definatley a good point. sometimes, before i chop up a sample, ill find a loop i can loop up to figure out the bpm, pitch, timestretch the entire loop to figure out the correct tempo and get things in sync, then ill chop that once i know it fits nicely as a loop........see what i mean? sometimes you gotta go back to orignal song you sampled and figure out the bpm from there too......but sometimes, the most out of wack (timing wise) loop can end up sounding good over perfectly quantized drums.......depends.