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By Kno1ills Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:08 pm
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:
Triple-X wrote:
Kno1ills wrote:Image

Got the UBK Clariphonic the other day. This thing is amazing. The tech behind it is cool too. It works like a parallel comp setup, but with an eq. Good shtt!



COSIGN! This rack is extremely dope. I would LOVE to be able to run my stuff thru all that wholesome rich goodness.
When you warm up Hot sh!t it sounds ever hotter! too dope man. very nice. *wipes drool off of chin*


Why not just run the whole mix through cassette? It will get the results you want without spending the cash...yea it don't look cool but who gives a ****..leave the mastering to the people who know what they are doing..I find it hard to spend any cash on extravagant outboard when I know some one else can do a better job using better gear..I'm not a Mastering Engineer and it's not what I want to do or have too much interest in, it's an art form just like beat making so let other people do it.
It's always best to provide the mastering engineer with 2 versions of the track..9 times out of 10 they go with the un-mastered version which they will master them selves and will pretty much sound better than the version you ran through your expensive gear.


What are you talking about? You don't even know what I use it for? Guess what...I'm no ME either. I track with my outboard, run drum busses thru them, analog summing and buss compression, makeup gain and occasionally a bit of shelving. I don't master shtt with any of the gear I have.

Your first sentence leaves me to believe you've never heard the GTQ2 and the body and saturation it adds to kicks/bass and vocals, or the Clariphonic and the air and amazing top end clarity, the fatso and it's character it puts on ANYTHING you run thru it(hard to sound bad) or the GTC2 and it's versatility being able to run on OPTO or FET topology and is nothing short of ridiculous for tracking vocals and drum busses. If you have some cassette tape that can do all this, I'll sell all mine and buy $10,000 worth of cassettes. Sorry to be a bit harsh, but you came off labelling me like I'm some type of glorified rich kid playing a Mastering Engineer.

You even got a shot of an API 2500 in your Avatar, how you gonna knock me for having some gear
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By Kno1ills Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:22 pm
HAHA... :lol: You'd be amazed at home much military reenlistment bonuses are!
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By mr_debauch Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:33 pm
Kno1ills wrote:HAHA... :lol: You'd be amazed at home much military reenlistment bonuses are!



I have no idea... but since i started getting into buying hardware for music and live sound etc... I am desensitized from 4 and 5 digit price tags. I remember years ago seeing a neuman mic priced at 8 grand and nearly spat... now i think I just came to terms with not looking at that brand. They charge for gear like that. Sometimes I wonder if it wouldn't be cheaper to build your own preamps by purchasing the exact parts used in those units..... and would it be as good.
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Fri Aug 27, 2010 9:49 pm
lol I wasn't aiming that at you Kno1ills but generally for people who think they need that stuff to sound great or phat or warm or like dilla lol

I had to spend a whole day with some people who didn't stop talking about shi*tty outboard but didn't have a single clue how to make a decent track or beat lol But instead pointed the fault at the gear they had..ohh no man I need this analogue mixer so and so used..you heard his mixes dey dope son..I need to spend $404049045903485093485 so I can sound like that..man I need to make my tracks sound warm and phat..yea yea yea use dem valve compressors lol

In a lot of cases I have seen production taking over from song writing and tune, people get obsessed about the smallest detail....
I'm not referring to you but c'mon you must see a up-going trend in buying fancy outboard...u telling me they are all using it to it's full extent like you obviously are from what I have seen in your reply? Or are they just seeking that sound they hear on their fave artists without even contemplating how to make the tune in the first place.

All I was saying is you can get a good warm sound without having to spend lots and most folk can achieve it on a little budget without dreaming about one day getting the big boy gear..when you got the writing part sorted then go for it man and get the best you can...I love the API-2500, wish I had the cash for one but even if I did I don't think I'm at the level production wise I would want to buy one.

Rant over lol You know when you had a shi*tty day and everything gets on your nerves? lol I think today was one hahah I bet I sound like a right pompous twat hahah

The API in the pic is my friends not my own
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By Kno1ills Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:58 pm
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:lol I wasn't aiming that at you Kno1ills but generally for people who think they need that stuff to sound great or phat or warm or like dilla lol

I had to spend a whole day with some people who didn't stop talking about shi*tty outboard but didn't have a single clue how to make a decent track or beat lol But instead pointed the fault at the gear they had..ohh no man I need this analogue mixer so and so used..you heard his mixes dey dope son..I need to spend $404049045903485093485 so I can sound like that..man I need to make my tracks sound warm and phat..yea yea yea use dem valve compressors lol

In a lot of cases I have seen production taking over from song writing and tune, people get obsessed about the smallest detail....
I'm not referring to you but c'mon you must see a up-going trend in buying fancy outboard...u telling me they are all using it to it's full extent like you obviously are from what I have seen in your reply? Or are they just seeking that sound they hear on their fave artists without even contemplating how to make the tune in the first place.

All I was saying is you can get a good warm sound without having to spend lots and most folk can achieve it on a little budget without dreaming about one day getting the big boy gear..when you got the writing part sorted then go for it man and get the best you can...I love the API-2500, wish I had the cash for one but even if I did I don't think I'm at the level production wise I would want to buy one.

Rant over lol You know when you had a shi*tty day and everything gets on your nerves? lol I think today was one hahah I bet I sound like a right pompous twat hahah

The API in the pic is my friends not my own

MY FAULT MAN!!!! :oops:

I feel you though. I feel you. A little saturation plug and shelving can do some 'warmth'. I think it's the fullness alot of people want. That takes a little effort though.

Sorry about that rant man!!!!!
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By Triple-X Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:47 am
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:lol I wasn't aiming that at you Kno1ills but generally for people who think they need that stuff to sound great or phat or warm or like dilla lol

so it was aimed towards me then? lol...

j/k... obviously you had a ass day. its all good.
I cant afford it, but can certainly appreciate nice analog outboard gear when I see it.
I come from the old school man. I love analog, in this new all digital world where everything sounds crystal clear and half assed producers make quarter assed tracks comprised of a Zaytoven drum kit and the latest softSynth VSTi.

I mean everything has its place.. to me.. at the end of the day.. if something sound good.. it sounds good. screw what it came out of.
but plug ins or not, now a days a LOT of music whether good bad or otherwise just lacks BAWLS. Its loud as ever and peaking the meter, but lacks SACK. Enter Kno1ills rack.

nuff said
oh yeah.. where can I get some of the magic cassettes at too!?!?
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:50 am
Triple-X wrote:
vinyl_junkie_1620 wrote:lol I wasn't aiming that at you Kno1ills but generally for people who think they need that stuff to sound great or phat or warm or like dilla lol

so it was aimed towards me then? lol...

j/k... obviously you had a ass day. its all good.
I cant afford it, but can certainly appreciate nice analog outboard gear when I see it.
I come from the old school man. I love analog, in this new all digital world where everything sounds crystal clear and half assed producers make quarter assed tracks comprised of a Zaytoven drum kit and the latest softSynth VSTi.

I mean everything has its place.. to me.. at the end of the day.. if something sound good.. it sounds good. screw what it came out of.
but plug ins or not, now a days a LOT of music whether good bad or otherwise just lacks BAWLS. Its loud as ever and peaking the meter, but lacks SACK. Enter Kno1ills rack.

nuff said
oh yeah.. where can I get some of the magic cassettes at too!?!?


@Kno1ills: No need to apologize man...

@Tripple-X

lol but yea I agree with you man..

regarding the magic tapes here goes lol

I have had a cassette deck on my to buy list for some time...like to buy a good one and a bad one too...oh and I want a reel to reel but the latter is more in my dreams as reel tape is a bit of a pain to buy freely here especially when you are skint.
Since I ditched tape in late 2001 for the digital world of recording there has been something I couldn't put my finger on that I missed when I made tracks..
Any way last month I got offered a cheap Fostex 4 track for 15GBP which I couldn't say no to....man there it is...what I have been missing.
That lo-fi tape sound, I have not tried sticking VST's through it but I'm sure it would make it sound dope lol
This is probably not to your taste but here are two deep house tracks I ran though the tape deck using just some cheap old TDK chrome tape and a Ferrite tape for the second tune. They are just played live from the MPC and the first one I'm playing my Bass Station live so some bits I mess up on keys lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExJ612DxGK8
Basically it went from my mixer to tape (overdriven the tape to hell) then back in the PC where I did it arse to end and applied the slightest EQ and a load of compression to tame the kick..Just experimenting really..I know usually the practice is to compress before going to tape to get the best SNR but hey ho this seemed to work quite well.

For the synth geeks among you lol
Roland JX-3P > Bass
Waldorf Micro Q > Chords
Novation Bass Station > Lead
MPC-2k XL > Drums

Second tune was pretty much all Juno sounds sampled in the 3200XL with drums from the MPC
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By mr_debauch Sat Aug 28, 2010 3:31 am
man i was thinking of getting a stereo unit good tape deck just so I could listen to the stack of old tapes I still got from back in my walkman days... panasonic shockwave with the chrome twist lock.

I am honestly curious about what i got on the recordable tapes in the collection. I know the albums I already got digital copies for the most part. I wish I still had my old purple casette..... you know the one.
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By vinyl_junkie_1620 Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:50 am
I still got my Sony walkman that has been with me since I was 7...thing is my mum chucked all my tapes in 2001 when we moved house :angry:

I was going to get a good deck again to record my dj mixes to, just missed a nice one on ebay that sold cheap(old top of the range Technics direct drive)..the Fostex I use more as an effect...I mean technically it's rubbish and what you put in certainly wont sound the same on the way out lol
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By SMC Mon Aug 30, 2010 8:02 pm
Boo, was looking for this thread, couldn't remember where it was.... Well, I found it.

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This is the current room, built it out in January....

Gonna be starting another build in about 1 month..... goin all out on the next setup....
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By Pilchard Mon Aug 30, 2010 9:02 pm
That looks comfy.
I could work and lounge in there.
Nice work SMC.
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By SMC Mon Aug 30, 2010 10:58 pm
Thanx guys.. I'm independant, so this ish is from 6 years of goin at it, upgrading, downgrading, downsizing, upsizing, at it, not at it, you get the idea...

This studio is a lot bigger than it looks here, peep the website photo gallery...

Control room, vocalbooth, drumroom, restrooms, and a lounge that is not photo'd yet cause I need new furniture before I'll post pics :)

I've done some major label work outta here.. So its def gettin the job done.

Finally gettin somewhere....

We really need a build Out thread... Maybe I'll start one this week... I have start to finish pics and videos... You should see the crazy ish I did to this console... 56 channels, 16 bus, motorized automation, vca automation, and I was in it this weekend with a sawzall and angle grinder, soldering iron, gettin mad wild on it :) final pics with my build out thread coming soon :)

Go ahead now and give me crap for havin all this gear :)

There is a purpose for all of it, and it all gets used, and I get paid because of it, so Nanna Nanna Boo Boo

Hahahah

Just kiddin, much luv fam