Sampling and the New Laws

Yo i just bought some wax you think i'm about to stop sampling this
shit if some **** ass **** is going to sue me, what is this
the **** patriot act? yo i'm going to sample what ever the **** i'm going to sample, if it ever gets released, i'm doing the indie or white label way. keep it gangsta just like george w. baby!

Thats great folks.

It passed on the 7th of september ammending the current sample laws.

I promise.

But the way i see it, if you're not eating off rap, you don't need to worry about sample clearance. When you start moving 50k units w/barcodes... then you can worry a little.

keep feeding the underground. thats all i gotta say

and at this point, you dont have to make it unrecognizable, cause even if you do, they wont be listening for the tune or riff, melody or pitch, they'll be listening to see if its a sample or if its an orignal playing. as long as they can tell samples are coming in and out you gotta be concerned, you'll be a target.


but even so, now to stay a step ahead, you gotta make your samples sound like orignals, clean them out a bit, and on top of that you gotta make it sound unrecognizable. understand?

or you can just say fu*k it, and keep on at it.

But that's wack cuz so many cats sound great when they up and comming cuz they sample that dope shit, then they sign withsomebody and have to worry and their shit gets a bit worse, RZA for example, not that he sucks, but that definatly puts a happering on creativity.

Of course, we could just sample live shit, I just got some lady's vocal off a friend's computer who he recorded and made some weird shit from it on the emax.

f*K em And keep sampling!!!
i wont pay..thatz all i got to say.!!!!

cyborgoe wrote:f*K em And keep sampling!!!
i wont pay..thatz all i got to say.!!!!

haha tell the supreme court that.

Man VS Machine wrote:Yo I wish sombody could sue GORILA BLACK for stealing BIGs hole style of rhyming

i heard that!

I dont feel easy with the no limit lawyers fighting for the future of sampled music.

they used NWAs song in a movie and those law people tryna sue htme . anyways us white kids on this internet forum dont have to worry about this law i dont think

Don't Feed The Troll!!!

DFTT!!!

I don't know why everyone's sweatin this, cause when you sell a track it's the artist who is liable to clear any samples. So, if your just a producer don't think twice about it.

Beijingtrax wrote:I don't know why everyone's sweatin this, cause when you sell a track it's the artist who is liable to clear any samples. So, if your just a producer don't think twice about it.

yeah i guess that is true! ...once your track is sold, its not your problem...maybe have a clause in your sales agreement. Like: "This track is sold as is, if you get sued, your fcked!":D

seriously though, you would have to probably put a clause in there, because the artist could point the finger at you....and if you are holding and maintaining "copyright" to the song, its technically not all yours. BUT you are claiming that it is!!!! so it doesnt matter what happens to the artist, you claimed that you did it! and submitted it to the government. proof.

But you could put a clause stating that you created the track for personally enjoyment, and if you sell it, it is no longer your liability as to what the artist does with it, and that it is the artists problem to get the samples cleared if they decide to distribute it, but you still maintain royalty rights to the recording and arrangement.

I wonder how that exactly works though: If i copyright a song, and dont clear the samples, if someone else ganks it and clears the samples first, is it thiers!?

It works like this. You as a producer create a track. You then sell the track to the artist. The artist then must clear the track for any samples through a sample clearing agency. The artist might not even be able to clear the sample, but it makes no difference you still get paid for the track. I've sold tracks to major artist's that have never been released for many different reasons and I've still been paid my front end (up front fee to lay the track in the studio) Example, the record company doesn't like the track after the song has been recorded you still get 50% of your total fee. Say your fee is $20,000, you would receive $10,000 up front to lay the track, and you would receive a check sent to either your lawyer or manager for the other $10,000 when the song is released. So the bottom line is you lay the track you get paid, this is done to protect the producer because if you lay a track and it's not released thats possibly money lost for you because the time the track was tied up you couldn't sell it to any one else. Remember 50% up front or DON'T even go to the studio. (they should also provide your air fare and hotel accomadations as well)